What to do with unwanted children?

My cousin and his wife spent over $50K in their adoption journey. It is like a game show. They were "finalists" a couple times before they finally got chosen to get the baby.

 

That is the titular description of the past 4 years under Trump.

 

Post #14 indicates that isn't exactly true.

 

I remember reading somewhere in regards to the current world population that there are more people alive today than have existed in all of recorded human history. Think about that for a moment, especially in regards to humans' impact on the planet.

 

Actually, there has been a concerted effort for most of the 20th century to irradicate "orphanages". They were nothing more than inhuman incubation warehouses. The last country that I can recall still had state-run orphanages was Kosovo, and it was truly a nightmare.

 

Wow, such a "classy" response.

 

You may not want to hear the truth of what you are causing down here but it exists. Children are sold off or simply taken for the sex trade and democrats incentivise them to come, right to the predators.

 

It will not be addressed by the naivete of the religiously bent, but rather by science...that is IF, the religiously bent continue with this charade of a crusade to eliminate abortion.

This will be the future of unwanted fetuses to appease the "magical thinking" folks.




Next on the crazy train for conservatives to lose their minds over, trans-humans.

 

And which bat-chit crazy conservative site fed that to you?

 

I think the Republican option is obvious, we must pass laws that require parents that we prevent from having children to love them, on pain of incarceration and eventually death for repeat offenders. We could have teachers and just neighborhood busybodies turn parents in for various things that manifest a lack of love like not attending a PTA meeting or letting the kid run the neighborhood. In the end, we'd probably have to require some of them to convert to Catholicism since we could have the priests to whom they confess their lack of filial piety turn them over to the proper authorities

I realize that means we'd have to repeal the entire Constitution and take over the Catholic Church but it's a small price to pay to have nearly a million more people added to our welfare rolls

 

I live here, it's all around me.

But go on and pretend it isn't happening.

 

You live on the border? So, I ask again, what PROOF do you have that that is occurring on any large scale? Or is this too along the same lines of the ballot fraud?

 

We've posted all of it before and you folks just dismiss it so you just go on believing how rosy it is for the immigrant children coming here.

Nothing bad ever happens to them.

 

Once again, nothing, zilch, NADA!!!

What a joke.

 

There is no source you would approve of since lefty sites don't cover it.

But fine, you win, all these cases of abuse, rape, murder are simply made up by the right.

The border is actually one of the safest places in the world.

Glad you cleared that up for us.

 

That is your opinion, and I have seen others, but I have yet to see an objective consensus. When, objectively, does a fetus be come a child? At conception, natural birth, when it can survive outside the womb, when there is a heartbeat, brain activity, when? Aside the the moral side of the equation, when does a fetus/child receive civil rights protections under law? When the mother decides? What of the other half of the equation, the donator of half the genetic code who at some point is designated to have a financial responsibility?
But, I note there seems to be definitions of convenance. On one hand, there are advocates for termination of unwanted life at birth and at another point along the definition continuum, if a pregnant woman is killed, there are laws on the books that allow a double murder charge.
There are a lot of legal, religious, and other opinions, but none accepted as gospel (pun intended).

 

Well when you eliminate something that is providing a social need, it seems you should have an alternative. The foster care system just can't cut it, at least in my state. We've had circumstances in which social workers were not able to place kids and had them sleep in the office. Having a professional permanent facility that can do intake for high risk kids seems to make more sense to me than dumping them off at a trailer with a couple who make their living by collecting benefits on the foster kids.

 

Unfortunately, the foster care system is a direct reflection of the cultural standards of that state, so just transferring them to a bigger more centralized facility is no guarantee of anything except repeating the mistakes of the past.

 

A fetus becomes a child at BIRTH.... That's science...fear it not


THEN it is a person with rights....that's law, fear it not.


I have NEVER seen anyone who is an advocate of termination at birth, in fact, that's murder.

A person who kills a pregnant woman has additional charges due to the Unborn Victims of Violence Act...it does NOT give the fetus rights or personhood..

 

If elective abortions were banned tomorrow, I imagine that in many cases the parent(s) would choose to keep the child after going through with birth. For those that don't wish to, foster care / adoption seem like workable options. Perhaps we'd have to beef up those two systems to handle the influx, but it doesn't seem like any sort of an impossible obstacle to me.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the pro-death approach is the best choice. Being pro-choice, pro-gun and pro-death penalty removes the unwanted and non-contributers from society. Besides, most people who have abortions are left leaning and I am a follower of Napoleon who famously said "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

 

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Keep a kid one didn't want ? How nice for the kid....

Workable options for you maybe....but the woman who had to suffer the pain and physical damage of 9 months of pregnacy might just disagree...it may not have been
" workable" to go through those 9 months, possibly lose her job, have to take time off work or education, be buried under medical bills...

WELL, right NOW there are kids that aren't adoped and actually "age out" of the system....maybe those opposed to abortion should step up to the plate !!!!!!

 

LOL! Don't you wish !

But the facts show you'll be disappointed.....Republicans have abortions, too.....and since abortion has been around for thousands of years and there are still a lot of Democrats your hopes are dashed

 

True, but less than there otherwise would be.

 

Somehow I KNEW you leave out that "inconvenient " part of my post so here it is :

But the facts show you'll be disappointed.....Republicans have abortions, too.....and since abortion has been around for thousands of years and there are still a lot of Democrats your hopes are dashed