I'll be so glad when this is over and the 46th or 47th president is sworn in Jan 20th

So many baseless claims and all this BS is preventing the US from moving let alone moving forward. When your team is 1-16 (in court) not counting the forfeits it's time to fire the coach and start rebuilding.

 

All of it is so insanely dumb.

On a scale of 1 to 100 - 100 being the absolute worst damage possible that can be done to the country, and 1 being no damage at all.

How much damage would it do to the country to have Biden run the country next 4 years? Let's say it's 20.
How much damage would it do to the country to have Trump run the country the next 4 years? Let's say it's 20.

If you're a huge Trump hate, or a huge Biden hater - change from 20 to 30.That's how much damage they'll do if you let them run the country as a president normally would.

The problem however is the following.

How much damage will it do to the country to have republicans spend the next 4 years attacking/sabotaging any initiative launched by a democratic president? 95
How much damage will it do to the country to have democrats spend the next 4 years attacking/sabotaging any initiative launched by a republican president? 95

It's ridiculous. Both sides are just as bad.

 

I was impressed with Rudy's reasoning in this video.

Thank God for Rudy Giuliani because the left was planning on really messing up America wide spread voting fraud.


"Rudy Giuliani makes WILD claim that there was "mass cheating" in the 2020 election"

 

Too bad, videos don't count. Rudy's "reasoning" in court has been embarrassing.

Rudy in public: Massive international fraud!

Rudy in court: This case doesn't involve fraud.

 

I do believe that Rudy has gone off the deep end. Did you know that there was a live feed web cam on the counting center? People committing/hiding fraud don't tend to put up a live feed. I tuned in once and the observers spent the entire time observing their phones. A classic case of "nothing to see here folks".

 

Neither Trump nor Biden (nor Harris) is capable of 'moving us forward.' This is because both halves of the country view what the other half wants as regressive, moving backward.

We have two options imo- split into two or more countries (this option will weaken us collectively) or return power to the states by decentralizing much authority away from FedGov, and let different states move in their respective 'directions' while maintaining the Union.

The third option- continue fighting eachother over who gets to hold the cudgel of FedGov to hammer the opposition into compliance -leads to civil war, which is not an option.

 

Then there's this exchange

Them big words are always tripping up lawyers.

 

It's much worse than that. One half sees a nation of people. The other half sees one man. That's the crux of the problem we face here.

There's nothing wrong with our institutions. What's wrong is half the country has abandoned trust in them, and has transferred that trust to one man. C?

 

The only thing I trust Trump to do is not infringe on civil liberties. Which is all I've ever wanted from govt.

 

That's your right. I demand more from a POTUS.

 

The right to vote is one of the biggest civil liberties there is.

 

Who did Trump restrict from voting?

 

Invalidating someone's legally cast vote is a violation of their civil liberties to the same degree as preventing them from voting in the first place.

 

I think Pelosi had a valid point when she said the differences between her & Mnuchin weren't policy differences, but a fundamental difference in personal values. The Republican Party used to bask in the idea of representing "family values." Today, under Trump, none of those former "values" holds a candle in their world philosophy. Today, Republicans value nothing other than self-enrichment & self-empowerment. Nothing & no one else matters. Personal freedoms for every American no longer matters. Even their "Pro-Life" philosophy has been truncated to mean "Pro-Fetus" only. After birth, they lose all interest. Trump Republicans are as cold hearted as the infamous Bolsheviks of Russia in the 1920s. I never imagined I'd ever live to see my fellow Americans thinking & acting that way.

 

I suppose, given the information availability limitations you might suffer from in the DRC that you might feel this way.

 

So you will agree then, that if there are illegally cast ballots, that those should be excluded. Right? For the same reason that they disenfranchise legal ballots. Right?

 

Who's vote was invalidated?

 

I don't know if anyone's has been yet or not. What I do know is that Trump is fighting to invalidate votes that were legally cast. All of Trump's "stop the count" nonsense was an (idiot's) attempt to invalidate legally cast votes that simply hadn't been counted yet. There are other examples of Trump and his campaign trying to do this, but two should suffice to make the point that he is trying to infringe on the civil liberties of voters.

 

Can you tell me which state legislatures voted to extend the cutoff date for mail in ballots to be counted? A governor's decree is not sufficient to change voting laws.

 

that only works if your praising him, ever disagree with him and your toast if he finds out, as Trump will do whatever he can to destroy you

 

There is no cutoff date for mail in ballots to be counted, only to be received.

 

Recieved by whom?

 

Received at whatever election or vote tallying location specified by the state.