Donald Trump Is Leaving Behind Blueprints to End Democracy

If you dismantle the democratic process, by partisan ship, over a election, even if that fails, you enter the realms of the Weimar Republik.
The Weimar failed because their were to many parties and not majority coalition could be built.
The US begins to fail because it has just 2 parties, which refuse to work with each other.
Now the loosing side of this election is digging in, to keep the power and refuses to built bridges to the winners.
Those are the signs of a failing democracy

 

I completely agree that Trump is just the symptom of something more profound. A disease that should have been stopped a long time ago. There have been several missed opportunities to stop the degradation of the Republican Party. Which I believe started with Nixon, and Ford's pardoning him. Oliver North demonstrated that somebody in power could do anything, and get away with it. Dick Cheney was another lost opportunity, when Obama and Pelosi failed to prosecute him, despite his many crimes. The Tea Party was the continuation of this "disease". But the disease has been getting worse and worse, until it hit bottom (hopefully) with Trump.

It would be a tragedy for this nation if Trump is not prosecuted. Because the next symptom of the disease is sure to be even worse.

 

He is showing another very good reason to get rid of the electoral college and elect the president and vice president by the direct popular vote and will of the nations citizens.

 

Biden was not even among my top 10 favorites. But seeing the events how they were unfolding, I understood why Biden was necessary. It's almost an impossibility to beat a sitting President. Especially one that has no scruples, like Trump. So we needed a non-controversial figure behind which non-Trumpist Republicans could stand. Democrats have much better candidates. I was for Mayor Pete, but I could just as well have liked to see Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren... Most candidates in the Democratic field would probably be a better President than Biden. But not a better candidate.

 

I totally agree. US politics needs more political parties to give stronger opposition to the established ones. (Thus curtail their power.)
The US was not set up to only have two parties in power, it just evolved that way. (Money being an important factor.)

It guess it worked for a long time, amazingly, but now this two-tier situation has grinded to a halt. And then, if you only have two parties in power, you have no democratic tools to get the wheels of diplomacy going again.

Who's gonna intervene in this broken marriage? Joe Biden certainly can't save it on his own.


As far as the Presidency is concerned; if Trump has proved one thing it's that the US Constitution has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

Separation of Powers? Don't make me laugh!

I hate Trump but if the law allows a (corrupt) individual like him to mingle in the appointment of Supreme Court judges... what do you think he's gonna do?
Try to install his own puppet judges. (Although it might be Trump's delusion that such judges are in his back-pocket.)

If the law says he can fire the head of the FBI... what do you think he's gonna do?
Try to install his own FBI puppet master.

Some of the stuff he was able to get away with as President, legally, left me stunned. Like being able to appoint members on the board of the US Postal Service. Who then, obviously, elected a Trump-cronie as their boss.

I mean...WTF!? What business does an American President have interfering with the US Postal service?
Look how Trump was able to corrupt that organization because his puppet post-master was willing to remove voting machines.

I could go on. Like the independent General Services Administration (GSA) who, amongst other things, facilitates transition of power between two governments.
The head of that organization, Emily Murphy, has so far refused to set in motion a transition from Trump to Biden.

Guess who was able to nominate that person for the job...?


US democracy seems to have survived for another day.

But it does smell like old cheese.

 

The guy said Hillary..... the person who conceded not tv actors and you know that

 

I agree with the Weimar similarities.

Republicans apparently shake in their boots when thinking of opposing Trump and Mitch McConnell is a weasel for not calling Trump what he is; a traitor of US democracy.

You are so right. We have seen this adoration of a cult figure before. It's frightening what spell Trump holds over others.

The difference here is that Hitler won the March 1933 election. As such he was in a position of power to destroy what was left of German democracy from the inside.

Trump, thank God, has lost his bid. He's a dictator trying to sneak back into the castle while being kicked out moments before.

He's got no legal leg to stand on.
It's pathetic and utterly futile.

But it still rocks US democracy.

 

Of course. You don't think so?

 

I agree with you, but there will be a high price to pay.

Like all demagogues, Trump has a huge personality cult behind him.

Bringing this criminal to justice will durably strengthen his supporters' perception that there is a "deep state" that has wanted his head from the beginning.

But a trial could shed light on many things that the people don't know and expose the criminal enterprise he have built up over the past 40 years.

 

Trump getting convicted at trial would be the best thing that could ever happen for the GOP.

Because, as part of his sentence, the court could deny him the ability to ever again seek (or serve in) Public Office.

Thus, any chance of a 2024 Run would be off of the table and the GOP could attempt to rebuild without the shadow of Trump (the person who destroyed the Party) hanging over them.

If Trump Runs again in 2024, it will be an unmitigated disaster for the future of the GOP.

 

You really wanted to say - It's a bigger political scandal than Russian Trump collusion four years ago; what has stopped you?

As for Trump managing to appoint a series of unqualified judges, I've read it, re-read it, tried to comprehend it, and hurt myself

Stop doing it.

 

An enlightened tolerant progressive liberal Democrat wishing best to Republicans is an oxymoron.

 

This is the most secure election in the nation’s history. So says trump’s administration.
What’s wrong with that?

 

There are some striking similarities in the ways that both Trump AND the Democrats are "Leaving Behind Blueprints to End Democracy" with what happened in Germany during the last turbulent years of the Weimar Republik in the 1920's and early 1930's.

The German Communists and the German Nationalists were embroiled in deeper and more violent conflicts as the miserable years ground on -- and meanwhile, super-rich German industrialists and bankers looked down on both factions as mere pawns to be used as they wished, in order to maintain power.

And if we Americans are so deluded that we really think "it can't happen here", remember that the German big-wigs of the time put Adolf Hitler in power, thinking that they could easily control an ignorant, doctrinaire "Corporal" and his unwashed mob of bully-boys. And exactly how the hell did that work out for "Democracy"...?

. ...Imagine Hitler with eye makeup and lipstick....

 

You all are so ****ing dramatic. Lol

Ten years ago we found out the Obama administration was essentially spying on anyone and everyone on the planet, illegally, and unknown to anyone outside of the highest levels of government, while we were drone striking US Citizens at night on the other side of the world.

But Trump is going to end Democracy.

You all need to go out into the real world every now and then. Lay off the Vox.

 

Trump is not going to end democracy because he lost the election. (Despite futile attempts to reverse it.)
A Presidential election that in 2024 you, if eligible, might not have been able to participate in because Trump would have done away with it.

You should thank nearly 80 Million Biden voters for your continued freedom.
YOUR freedom that Trump hates with a passion.

And no, Obama wasn't perfect either. 20 schoolchildren died on his watch because he failed to regulate gun-control.
I'll bet it haunts him still.

But at least he didn't try to turn America into a Fourth Reich.

 

I think I have sacrificed far more for this country and its freedom than 99% of those people who you think are doing me a favor...

But I'm glad you're so concerned for me, however misguided.

 

Exactly.

At this point (among respected historians) it is Universally Accepted that Trump's Election (and the 4 Years that followed):

Was the Most Painful Desecration of Domestic Tranquility since the Civil War.

^A Universal Truth that is Utterly Inarguable.

 

Isn't it time to forget about Trump? Time to stop talking about him? His attempts have been and will continue to be fruitless with respect to regaining the WH. Let's move on!

 

Oh, He IS GONE (for NOW)...

BUT, he could always run in again 2024, and have the Entire GOP running scared in terror of alienating his voters.

 

This post is moronic. You claim something that's false, and don't provide any evidence to support it, and then try to declare it "utterly inarguable". You should be embarrassed by this low-effott trolling.

 

Hitler did not win the election.
After the large parties failed to built a coalition government, Hindenburg appointed Hitler to form a government. He formed a minority government and than used the emergency clause to suspend parliament and made himself dictator.
If you look at all the arm wrestling the Pig is trying with the electorate, shades of Weimar.
One can only hope that those Republican State Houses/Parliaments do not roll over under Trumps pressure, because that would be the end of the democratic system in the US

 

I agree with all your arguments.

But I am CERTAIN that the Republicans will move quickly away from Trump as soon as he is no longer President.

There will be a schism in the party and they will tear each other apart for years.

They will do everything they can to prevent him from running again in 2024 since the chances of him winning are very slim.

 

ROFL, yea, cause both her and Gore had more votes! With Florida cheating for Bush.
WTF, how is this remotely the same? You lost both the popular, and electoral votes.

 

Agree,but it is not an optimistic statement.