Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud

Ok I'll skip the insult, not this time try to actually respond

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These are sworn and signed statements to notary, an agent of the court and it is against the law to sign a false statement in front of a notary. It is considered perjury.

"An “affidavit” is a written statement that is considered made under oath. It is only valid when made voluntarily and without coercion. When you sign an affidavit, you are asserting that the information is true and that you have personal knowledge of the facts contained in the affidavit. By signing, you are also stating that you are competent to testify if called into court about the information provided in the affidavit."
https://www.legalnature.com/guides/what-you-need-to-know-about-using-affidavits

The notary is not there to just validate the persons ID or a claim was made, the statement before the notary is no different from giving the statement in court as evidence. Now during all the attacks on conservatives and Trump the left kept reminding us the people just don't go and give false affidavits so they should be believed because no one would ever lie in one.

So there are lots of affidavits on there claiming voting irregularities so don't you think they should be investigated?

 

It is evidence and will be presented. Problem is.....you want it all now. Just be patient.

 

Witnessed by liars
But since Trump has told the poll watchers before the election without proof that Democrats would destroy his election chances he has told them to throw proof out the window. No president in history has told poll watchers what to look for without proof before the election. In fact Trump himself lied a couple of times claiming he won the election without providing proof. This sociopath president wants to uproot democracy and you're helping him.

 

The intellectual level of this thread is also sorely lacking made up of accusations without proof. The states in question have pretty much resolved that Joe Biden is the winner despite Trumps sicko lawsuits and false claims he won the election that you support.

I told you Trump was a sociopath in sick denial. He gave speeches without proof way before the election that the democrats would cheat and steal to take the election away from him. His followers took it all in as the gospel truth. But with sick Trump no matter how often he loses in court he does not have any sane reasonable sense of when to stop.. So you continue to support a sociopath who's sole concern is about making democracy in America a hollow joke because he lost the 2020 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lts-in-pennsylvania/ar-BB1beNvo?ocid=msedgdhp

“In scathing ruling, judge dismisses Trump campaign's effort to overturn election results in Pennsylvania”
"A Pennsylvania federal court on Saturday denied President Donald Trump's request to block certification of the state's 2020 election results in order to give his campaign lawyers time to find evidence to support their claims of a fraudulent election system and improper ballot counting.”

 

Your proof all 200+ are lying is..................

 

Just in your post and this is not about Trump it is about the integrity of the election and the mass mailin voting that occurred and the DOJ should absolutely investigate. I don't care what Trump says I don't care that everything you post is merely expressing your hatred toward him.

 

Why would the DOJ WASTE TIME "investigating" anything?

Biden WON and Trump LOST.

What is there to "Investigate"?

(Outside of Sidney Powell's Delusional "Bigfoot and Dominion Switched Millions of Votes" Fantasy?)

 

That's your problem. You don't care about anything Trump does and says and yet the false pretense of this thread is entirely based on Trumps' telling his potential poll watchers before the election without a shred of evidence to look for nasty cheating and stealing on the part of the dems. You're hiding from the facts. So you're helping his cringing effort to disrupt the election process simply because he lost and had a good idea he would loose before the election. (He read the polls.). You are merely doing Trumps bidding. You fail to realize that after Trump has lost legal challenges in the crucial states where he challenged the election outcome he continues to defy democracy for his own purposes and you are one those backing the effort.. How sad that you support his attempts to disrupt democracy and his need to cast doubt on the election results for a long time to come.. A sane president would have conceded by now. You simply don't care about all the lies and deceit this twisted pathological moron comes up with. But this thread is based on his original lies and deceit.

 

Giuliani and Powell claimed to have all the evidence necessary to stop certification in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

All of their cases were rejected.

The courts aren't the first step in a prosecution or investigation, the're the last.

Do you understand that ?

 

But, still:

Barr authorizes Justice to probe 'substantial allegations' of Bigfoot sighting

Billy Barr is on the case:

 

Perhaps things work differently in your state. But I distinctly remember hearing the GA secretary of state mentioning this year they were doing all paper ballots to ensure there was a paper trail. It's something he mentioned during the presser announcing a recount. A quick search for how the GA touchscreens work reveals this:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--reg...-voting-machines-work/RyIOJuHYQgktcCNGL9sEoK/

So, is the claim that the touchscreens are switching votes, or that the tabulation machine is doing it? If it were the touchscreens, shouldn't we have heard from tens of thousands of people at a minimum that directly witnessed their printed ballot coming out with the incorrect candidate? If the claim is that the tabulation machine switched votes, shouldn't we have seen a significantly different result in the hand recount of these paper ballots?

 

I don't care what the Trump campaign is doing at this point other than they have every right to contest the election. That is seperate from a Voting Rights and criminal investigation by the DOJ. That being said there were HUGE problems with this election, do you understand that?

 

It's the country's problem if we continue to have elections such as this one. I have fully acknowledge the Trump lawyers have lost their legal challenges so far, so what? This is about the necessary DOJ investigation into allegations made and I would like to see a joint congressional committee look into all the problems with the rushed mass mail in voting that occurred and interference in that by courts and local officials. That is also the case I want to see headed to the SCOTUS so that the can send the clear message to the lower courts not to mess with elections as the state legislatures set them, they have no such authority. And if you are going to complain about an outgoing administration threatening democracy then start with the Obama administration and their attempts to deny Trump the Presidency he won.

 

The only problem was that the Tangerine Turd got flushed. Barr's DOJ is uniformly rejecting any criminal investigation. Any Voting Rights Act violations and investigations will be squarely aimed at Republicans. The courts are laughing at the civil cases, and uniformly tossing them with prejudice. Biden is President Elect. He won fair and square. Deal with it.

 

Don't hide behind the law to justify what is morally unacceptable.

Trump's behavior is unpatriotic.

If he had any respect for the Constitution, he would have long ago conceded and allowed Emily Murphy to sign the transition documents.

But then again, you'll probably never understand why 80 million Americans voted against him.

The "huge problems" is a fantasy of the mind, a conspiracy theory whose false evidence has not even been able to slow down the certification process in any state.

How many judges have rejected the Trump team's requests?

31.

But it's still a gigantic conspiracy by the Democrats....

With you, we'll never get away with it.

 

We agree. Voting a sociopath for president is surely the country's problem. So we don't need need someone like you pretending to legitimize Trump's anger and bitterness simply because he lost fair and square. He said he would try to delegitimize the election by warning his poll watchers to look for cheating and stealing behaviors of the democrats without proof and waaaay before the election occurred.

Right Trump has has demonstrated there is no validity to any of his claims over and over and yet you are all for Trump going on with his false claims indefinitely with no end in sight as he disrupts the democratic process and tries to put Bidens presidency in doubt for as long as he can.. You support patho-Trump's hatred for democracy.

Once again you pretend that this didn't start when Trump told poll watchers without proof to look for stealing and cheating by the dems before the election occurred Hack Barr himself got his job by volunteering that Mueller's investigation was flawed without having looked over the entire case and suggesting that to Trump's lawyers way before he was AG.. The supreme court will not rule in Trumps favor and overturn Biden's election and give it to Trump. . `

Once again you could care less that Trump has already damaged the country with pathological false claims of election cheating before the election took place. That's what Barr pretends to look into. The supreme court will never overturn the election results and hand it over to Trump as shown in previous cases. You think that Delusions are legitimate reason for not conceding.

Lol thanks for admitting that Trump's purely false claims of an illegal election has everything to do with his need for vengeance against Obama who has nothing to do with this election. .Proof your vengeance against Obama as your real motive for supporting Trumps attempts to destroy democracy.

 

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This is complete B.S..
One of the major differences between this election and 2016 is that Trump lost. He knew he would lose. And before the election Trump promised his supporters and poll watchers there would be cheating and stealing by democrats before the election took place. He made these claims without any proof in the least. The affidavits aren't any more truthful than the lies they are based on.
Trump started claiming before the election that left wing poll watchers (meaning democrats) would steal the election without proof.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/trumps-call-for-an-army-of-poll-watchers-is-fall-flat-so-far/

"At a September campaign rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the president encouraged his audience to be poll watchers. “Watch all the thieving and stealing and robbing they do," he said. “Because this is important."

He set them up to do just what he did. To simply call Democrat ballots fraudulent regardless of proof.

 

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I DON'T CARE WHAT TRUMP SAID. I care about what happened in the election with voting irregularities and judges and state and local officials changing rules and dates for which they have no authority. I care about how the ballots were handled and mishandled. I care about the integrity of our elections and especially our future ones so we don't have these same problems only exponentially.

And your simple dismissals of sworn affidavits laughingly desperate.

 

still nothing from Barr... lol

 

. .Exactly and that's why you fall victim to Trump's plans to overturn a legitimate election. And by the way you are in total rage mode.

Yawn.

But you don't care about the record number of Affidavits that are inaccurate and based on ignorance and poorly trained poll watchers as a result of Trump screaming to them that without a shred of evidence Democrats will do nothing but cheat and steal the election. You are completely detached from reality which is why what you're saying is laughable and without merit.

Just because they're sworn you think that makes them infallible. You refuse to acknowledge the record number of inaccurate and ignorantly written affidavits caused by a sicko president who never cared about accuracy or proof in his speeches to his poll watchers. . This is why Trump will lose. Judges are tired of this crap clogging up the system and you're not going to overturn a legitimate election for the sake of Trump's falsehoods rage and anger as reflected by his poll watchers.

 

Oh well.

When what is left of these Frivolous "Cases" are laughed out of Court, you will have your answer.

 

You do understand that those relatively minor changes were so legal, registered, Americans could make votes easier and safer, don't you? They have nothing to do with fraud or illegal voters at all but were simply procedural changes. You do want all legal Americans to be able to vote safely do you not? On top of that, if you put all of the challenged votes together from all the states, give them all to Trump in Pennsylvania he'd still lose PA.

Fraud you prosecute in court, the rest of this stuff is for the states to work out. But none of them changes the outcome.

 

You do understand they were UNCONSTITUTIONAL and not minor. You do understand they increase the chance of fraud and mishandling of ballots either purposely or by human error. I want all legal Americans to vote WITHIN the rules as set by the STATE LEGISLATURE and all LEGAL ballots counted and all ILLEGAL ballots discarded. What is so hard to understand and where do you disagree?

And show me a study which has shown COVID cases increased more in states without mail in voting than states with mail in voting and that that was the cause. You know listen to the science.

 

Hardly, we are still faced with the irregularities and misplace ballots and dead people voting.