Why the election wasn't stolen

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  1. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If conspiracy theorists ever wanted to learn the truth, which they don't (and even if the truth is spelled out in front of their very eyes it won't make a difference), here are ALL the allegations debunked, one by one, showing that Biden won the election fair and square. Interesting read for those who live in the real world rather than in the "alternative facts" world.

    https://news.yahoo.com/the-2020-ele...re-all-the-facts-that-prove-it-184623754.html
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do understand what a conspiracy theorist is don't you?
     
  3. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's someone who credits a covert group or organization with carrying out a secret plot with absolutely no evidence to support such.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, Russia Russia Russia. Just sayin.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no requirement that there is absolutely no evidence.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually there is enough circumstantial evidence to investigate further.

    Take UFO's for instance.

    If there was nothing out of the ordinary there would be nothing to discuss.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll take Whataboutism for $300, Alex.
     
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    Would it be too much to ask that you not bring yahoo news to the site? It's not like they have any credibility at all. And who wants to click on their site to pay them? It's ridiculous.

    Lots of folks do want to learn the truth. Many of us would like several states to hand count and hand reconcile their ballots. It would induce peace of mind, and frankly it would stanch the concerns of so many of us who actually are paying attention and see the irregularities of the counts and where those counts where magically flipped. yes, we'd like that. But, Yahoo, who also hasn't gone through the exercise of actually investigating anything, and printed an opinion piece (yes, this is opinion, absent actual fact, an unfortunately widely practiced method at yahoo news.. doesn't actually "debunk" any of those concerns.

    So why not spend the time and do the hand counts that would require each ballot to be reconciled with a legally registered voter? Why not spent that time? And if it turns out that the concern of so many of us were founded in truth, and there was fraud, that would no longer be a conspiracy theory, would it. More, it would ask hard questions about why folks, like you, and outlets like Yahoo, were so terribly willing to compromise the veracity of our elections to rush to an outcome for a specific candidate whom you supported? More, it would beg the question of how these ballots were manufactured, or irregularly counted, or otherwise failed to be appropriately scrutinized to ensure their validity.

    But, you don't want that. Because Yahoo says. And how superficial and destructive is that?
     
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    Actually there isn't.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok
     
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    Again, no one is forcing an end to the investigation. The president has the justice department and the FBI. The Trump 2020 team still has many irons in the fire. Republican politicians still have the right to speak. However, people do have the right to criticize the lack of evidence or point out the high percentage of lawsuits that are being thrown out.
     
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    If there was evidence of widespread voter fraud it would have been presented with the many cases filed by Rudy and his team. But we all know they haven't presented any evidence. Can't show what one doesn't have.
     
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    Then this wouldn't be a conspiracy would it?
     
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    Have you worked out the logistics on how hundreds of thousands of illegal votes were distributed to thousands of polling places in several states?

    How did it happen?

    I mean, sure, we had 75 ballots mailed to our address and we filled them all out, but, we're probably a one-off, amiright?

    /sarcasm.
     
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    It is for those who believe there was widespread voter fraud.
     
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    True. So ask why you believe in the phrase, lack of evidence. There are something like just over a thousand people who have submitted affidavits of what they saw, and how what they saw was a violation of state law. Yahoo certainly hasn't "debunked" those affidavits, nor have they any actual evidence that their "debunking" is based in any actual facts.

    It has to start somewhere. And it has to start with the states who have produced this garbage. Recount by hand all the votes in those states. Make it clear that the voters of those states did, in fact, vote for Biden, and all of this will go away. The only way it doesn't is remain opaque. This would be acceptable and fair. And if the results indicate that enough legitimate ballots were cast that elect Biden, so be it. But if you don't allow this to play out, and simply white wash over it. The country suffers. No one will actually trust vote counting again. And for good reason.
     
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    It seems there is enough to warrant a conspiracy theory here.

    Remember that it's a theory, not proof. It's the chance of another outcome.

    It's not like presenting a case in court. Some turn out to be true but most are never proven.
     
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    Only in the minds of conspiracy theorists
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not a conspiracy I am pushing.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well of course.

    Then there are people like you who take everything at face value and thinks nobody ever lies or tries to con them.

    The establishment loves people like you because they have no desire to dig deeper.

    They hate people like me because I trust no one.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am discussing conspiracy theories in general.
     
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    Hahahaha...I'm basing my point of view on the FACT that no evidence has been provided to support widespread voter fraud. If there is all this evidence then what is Rudy waiting for? Why hasn't he presented it in all those cases that got dismissed for...wait for it........NO EVIDENCE!!!!
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there were evidence then it would no longer be a conspiracy, it would be a fact.

    You seem to be struggling with that for some reason.
     
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    So you admit there is no evidence. Great....there's hope for you yet.
     

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