'America is back, ready to lead the world': Joe Biden

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Chinese virus beat Trump, and the Chinese virus had all sorts of incentives to make sure sleepy Joe be erected into the White House.
     
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    You have that wrong. Sleepy Joe hid in the basement while the lamestream media lied about President Trump. It took those lies, and a massive amount of cheating to get Biden elected. Sorry, that won't work in 2022 and 2024. After all this is over, the DNC will have held onto the House, and gained control of the White House. But they will still not hold the Senate, and their hold on the House is razor thin. If the Mid-term elections go as normal, the party that holds the White House loses seats in the Congress and Senate. That will put the Legislature in the GOP hands. Biden will not keep any of his promises. (That is already apparent from his Cabinet picks so far.) So, the media lies will not get Biden elected to a second term. That means a GOP controlled White House, Congress and Senate. (So much for the blue wave!!)

    Where will Biden lead us to? A GOP controlled country. BTW, you are now going to have to call the DNC the Old White Men party.
     
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    I often go 3rd party.
    This time, I think my 3rd time ever, I went major party candidate.
     
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    The media doesn't have to blame trump.

    He said:
    15 will go to ZERO
    It will magically disappear
    The reaction to the virus is the new DEM HOAX
    No, I don't take responsibility.

    So, there is no one to blame but the leader who chose to ignore the virus. And it did cost him.
     
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    tRUMPvirus was trumps fault.

    He said:
    15 will go to ZERO
    It will magically disappear
    The reaction to the virus is the new DEM HOAX
    No, I don't take responsibility.

    His real leadership skills rose to the top during the crisis and he beat himself to sleepy Joe. Pretty difficult to accomplish, but he did it.
     
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    Yes, and it was a mistake. One that Nixon would likely live to regret if he could see present day America. Also, he said "all prior" administrations, so he most certainly was blaming Nixon. I happen to agree with the premise of Detente, the issue is that China was one of the countries to keep in detente, not to make as an ally.

    What we really need to do, is strengthen our Japanese allies, in order to rule over the Asiatic seas. Bringing North Korea over, is probably a fool's gambit. A new Asian union with Japan at its core would isolate and pincer off the Chinese State. If we would try and make Hong Kong a US State for example, that allows us to get right in the door.
     
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    At one time I thought so to.
    But reality is, the world is shrinking. Technology moves at the speed of light.
    We are all going to be traders with each other.
    It was bound to happen.

    Now we just need to be a part of the on going talks that will make the world trade and do business with each other.

    We are not going back to isolated countries, IMO.
     
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    Even with the advent of the boat/airplanes(and various things since), countries still mattered. The Grand Chessboard is as relevant today, as it was when Brezinkski first authored the book. In fact, that's what our intelligence community complains about: That Putin views everything in Realpolitick, as opposed to our desire to create the neoliberal international order that fell on its ass.

    There is no such thing as an 'international order', there's the power pullers, and then there's the 2nd-3rd world countries who must wheel and deal themselves in order to secure their own States. As America continues to pursue the fantasy of the international order, our antagonistic rivals continue to arm themselves and equip themselves for a future 21st and 22nd centuries without America standing as the top dog.

    I view things in Realpolitick as well, for America's victory. Not for a order, not for a grandiose vision of how the world should be. But about America's political standing, relative to the other countries. Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine make clear what is America's historic foreign policy:

    We want to buffer the Western/European frontiers, and to protect our coastal line. What happens relative to these other countries isn't that important. Everyone cites WW2, but no one likes to admit that we set the table with WWI and the Treaty of Versallies. Our international community has simply never lived up to its results, in the past or the present.

    It's not that Putin/Russia want it to fail, more like it's never succeeded and it's inevitable it fails. So, what should we do? Continue to try propping up something that requires us to give more to the European/Asiatic countries with very little to show for it? Or should we continue to prop up America's interests?

    If America "cares for the rest of the world", all the more reason to disregard the facade and become an Empire in earnest. But that would mean incorporating these territories into the union and not giving up on them halfway as well as central control over its government.

    Iraq failed, for a lot of reasons but the biggest reason is "giving Iraq its own democracy". America became the first country to invade a country to create a new government for itself. If you're a tribal warlord there, you're pretty much laughing at us. We've turned the history of warfare on its head, and we deserved our losses for that stupidity.

    Right now, Hong Kong(and Singapore) are primed to be Asia-English targets. If we can incorporate these rich sea ports into our union, not only would we strike a blow at China(and come way too uncomfortably close to their borders for them, so they would feel the need to negotiate even more. but we would strengthen America.

    But our Pentagon is filled with bumbling idiots as we "fight for democracy", so don't expect such wise geopolitical moves coming from these nitwits.
     
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    You bring up a point of view I hadn't really considered. Military. In the role of world trade.

    I probably wrongly surmised, that trade $$$ would be a big motivator in deals without the need for military.
    But of course, assets in other countries have to be protected

    Which is likely why, even trump hasn't pulled all our troops back home. We need them scattered about the world
     
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    I don't fear people's sexuality. I think that's normal. Your fears are your problem.
     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you call normal, I call accepted. Normal it is not.

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    I called my lack of fear of others' sexuality normal. Your irrational fear noted.

    What kind of sexuality do you call normal? Doggie? Missionary only? People's sexuality is none of my business.
     
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  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The kind that produces offsprings. Everything else is not normal but accepted.
     
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    Good. Engage in sex only for that purpose. Others disagree.
     
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    Then why, in the middle of the Chinese pandemic, are 56% of US citizens still saying they're better off now than 4 years ago?
    Appears the vast majority of these citizens would have re-elected Trump in a land slide. I think they did. We'll see what happens in the courts.
     
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    Yep. Just another Trump con job to get free money.
    And look at them go for it.
     
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    Trump cabinet.

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    Got a link for that?

    In any other race in the history of the country, Trump would have won. But not this one.

    The court thing is over, for the most part. Trump didn't simply lose about 30 cases, he was laughed out of court.

    There's another thing, Trump's lawyers couldn't lie in court the way the Trump crowd was out of court. Which means the entire exercise was an attempt to bamboozle America.
     
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    Trump con job!!? He's the only President in the last 70 years that has LOST personal fortune while sitting in office.. Think before you type.. oh.. yeah.. you don't think and don't rationalize.
     
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    Blame the media for all that. If they did investigative reporting the public would be on top of it. Instead, they want to know what flavor ice cream Creepy Joe is eating!
     
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    ???

    We've already seen what happened in the courts. It's over. Trump and Rudy have sunk to the level of cheap hotel ballrooms and continental breakfast. Every time you say "courts" or "investigations," a little pixie loses her dust, and the rest of the world rolls in laughter. Poor pixie. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself like this?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's actually pretty questionable wouldn't you agree? Trump got 72,000,000 votes......a new record. He campaigned his a$% off. Biden got 80,000,000 votes by far exceeding anything Hillary got. They went way overboard with the fraudulent voting. He campaigned from his Basement. When he came out of the basement it was pitiful......covid masks and several cars honking their horn. No creepy Joe did not actually set the world on fire, and as you referred to him, the dotard demential candidate, it is all pretty questionable. We're going to find out.
     
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    It's like when you and the fake media had Russian Collusion all sewn up. You expounded on it for 3 years then "POOF!!" it was gone. We don't have 3 years but we have affidavits and we'll be getting to the bottom of it. When we do, perhaps the states will have to vote.
     
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    How ironic. You prove his point.
     
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    I'm fighting the steal to the last.. and if we fail.. I expect to suffer the wrath of the Deep State.. yes.. even I, who should be inconsequential to them. At the local level I'm high on the list.. if not on top. Nationally.. at some point my continual donations to the President will be noted. They may even come here looking for my "hate" speech against their evil communist system.
     

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