SCOTUS Ruling on Religious Services During COVID Lockdowns Removes Obstacle Named Chief Justice Robe

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  1. Vote4Future

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    Do your job Roberts, you coward!
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely!

    Also grocery stores, department stores, protests, restaurants, airplanes. Public transportation, and of course work.

    Bad juju out there.
     
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    Actually those people are the money makers. Hell my doc probably loses money on me. Blood work once a year and then a 30 minute physical.

    He would likely much rather have someone with a myriad of issues.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not want trump back in 2024. He was entertaining and I liked his policies but hated his approach, An endorsement at best would be acceptable.

    I do not wish to be entertained, I'll leave that up to the comedians.
     
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    Blood is freedom's stain.

    You can't have freedom and total safety all the time. Get over it. We live in the US, where religious liberty is valued more than being safe.
     
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    Are you attempting to use scripture to shame people who choose to exercise the right to peaceful assembly and religious worship?
     
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    if the republican judges want to go pack the churches, it's their choice
     
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    No , just a moral one among themselves. I have heard cases were they have been defrocked or disbarred.
     
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    I don't know how old you are but it wasn't many years ago many stores had signs "We have a right to refuse service to anyone". The judiciary had a different opinion and ruled against it.
     
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    In several parts of California, strip clubs are allowed to remain open while churches have been closed.

    Churches Still Closed While Strip Clubs Reopen In California : US : Christianity Daily


    These are the most populated areas where the majority of the state's people live.
    The churches can still hold services outside but not inside.

    People are allowed to go inside a liquor store or marijuana dispensary to buy things, but not allowed to go inside a church to hear a service.

    Guess strip clubs, alcohol and marijuana are considered "essential" to these people.
     
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    In another thread in the Religion & Philosophy forum the indisputable fact that churches are CLOSING because of a LACK of funding and attendance is being discussed.

    The harsh REALITY is that they are NOT sustainable in our GREED obsessed economy that is the result of GOP fiscal malfeasance.

    That the biggest LOSER*-in-Chief has ENABLED the Covid virus to spread NATIONWIDE through his INCOMPETENCE is yet another problem because the SCIENCE has established that indoor religious services are SUPERSPREADER events.

    The SCrOTUS is now CULPABLE for additional DEATHS of American citizens.

    Sad!
     
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    According to your article, they weren't allowed to remain open, they went to court and had the restrictions lifted from them on literal constitutional grounds, exactly the same as what some religious organisations are trying to do. How can you support one but condemn the other?

    Individuals could still go in to a church, the restrictions are only on large gatherings since they obviously pose a greater risk of infection. Someone going in to any kind of shop, buying goods and then leaving is entirely different to large groups sitting together for a couple of hours of a church service.

    There is a clear distinction between the moral principle of "essential services" and the practicalities of how a particular service or business operates. It's wrong to try to conflate the two. The practical equivalent of church services would be theatres, concerts or indoor sporting events, not shops or restaurants.
     
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    So are you arguing against the poster's opinion of doctors refusing treatment?
     
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    Not at all. Just saying that this is contrary to the words of Jesus. Using this concept of religious freedom to fight a temporary lockdown is political, not religious. I'm all for religious freedom, but I don't see religious freedom as an issue here.
     
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    No one is stepping on anyone's "religious liberty" that's the apex of victimhood.
     
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    It's not a matter of it being a necessity, it's a matter of it being allowed. It's called a peaceful assembly, and a peaceful assembly requires a place to assemble.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    What's disappointing about this ruling is that the vote was 5-4 instead of 9-0.
     
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    I guess I am.
     
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    That's a misapplication of the 1st Amendment. The right to assemble refers to protest, not church services. It has nothing to do with private property. We already have a right to "assemble" on private property.

    ...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    That's the section of the clause. You can't remove everything from "and" forward.
     
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    So was i
     

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