Was Trump right to pardon General Flynn?

Frankly I say yes, his prosecution was a disgrace and almost makes me believe in the deep state, such a blatantly politically motivated prosecution. It will be interesting to see who else he pardons before January,

 

See'ns how Flynn negotiated with the Russian ambassador prior to taking office violating the Logan act, which bars unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with foreign powers, and then lied about it to the FBI, makes him guilty as hell. Trump ordered him to do it, so I guess....yeah, pardon him. Hopefully this blight on America's integrity will heal with the next administration, but we'll be picking at the scabs for a while.

 

LOL, that means Biden should be prosecuted seeing how he isn’t President elect yet.

 

And the evidence is......lost in the mail?

 

Then why did he plead guilty? Twice?

 

After the pardon, Flynn is no longer subject to self-incrimination. That means he can't plead the fifth anymore concerning the crimes he was pardoned for, so he can be forced to testify.

Oops.

 

Do you really think a decorated General like Flynn would have lied to the FBI under pressure? That hasn't made a lot of sense to me.

 

Trump ordered him to do it? Where did you get that? Did he lie or simply not recall?

 

Well then, since Biden isn’t even president elect yet and negotiating with foreign leaders bet you are all hopped up to prosecute him yeah?

 

So?

 

There is no right or wrong with pardons since they are all guilty.
That's what a pardon is for.

 

Thing is - no one has actually seen the pardon. Trump may be surprised by this but you cannot issue pardons via tweet. There were no details - what exactly was he pardoning him for? Was it the charge of lyin to the FBI or the crime HE PLED GUILTY TO?

 

His only crime was assuming he was being questioned in the course of an honest investigation when it was actually a political witch hunt. Very costly lesson.

 

You and who else is accusing him of violating the Logan Act?

 

Same charge against Flynn. Just trying to be fair.

 

TWIT-(that's what I thought)

 

But there were no crimes, that's what the FBI concluded, he just mis-recalled what had happened. It was a clear perjury trap.

 

He forgot? In his plea deal Flynn said he falsely denied that on December 29, 2016 he asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak "to refrain from escalating. in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day."

 

"I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" Trump - Dec 2, 2017

 

Because he was being bankrupted by legal fees and railroaded into a perjury trap. Trump didn't know the details back then, he does now.

 

The horror.

Think materiality.

 

What he obviously meant was that the conversation with Kislyak was lawful in his opinion. That may or may not have been borne out in a trial, but the materiality of the "lie"would have been for a jury to decide, and reasonable people can disagree on materiality.

People predisposed to believe that Trump was/is a Russian agent (you know who you are) could be made to believe in the Lochness monster, i.e., not reasonable.

 

This is the ONLY point that the Trump and Flynn haters make that holds some slight appeal for me. He is not a shrinking violet. I don't understand why he did it, unless someone told him after the conversation with Kislyak that it was at least problematic, if not clearly unlawful, under the stupid Logan Act:

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.

Having read it 5 times I'm still not exactly certain what it means: if the person is "unauthorized," how could the unlawful negotiation (whatever that means) bind the USA anyway? And then there's a First Amendment problem.

 

8 votes for "utter" corruption? So if Trump had not pardoned Flynn, Flynn was going to do ... what?

Show the FBI some photos of Trump applauding as Russian prostitutes urinated on a bed?

Madness.

 

Agree. There is nothing wrong that while serving as a senior advisor to President Trump, Flynn was lying to FBI about his communications with Russian ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak.
FBI has no right to ask a senior advisor to president about his contacts with Russia.