Biden to impose $200 Gun Tax

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for sharing the list I already posted, and quoting me so I could see it
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you seriously think Biden can pass bills in the Senate without republicans, lol, now who is being nonsensical?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you not notice the stats on ALL rifle deaths in the United States of which so called assault weapons, because they look meaner, are just a fraction of those. That's irrational.
     
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    It certainly doesn't beautify the unnecessary and ineffective restrictions the anti-gun leftists seek to place on the rights of the law abiding.
     
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    If you don't pay the $200 tax and register them, or sell them back, what happens?

    Why do you think Biden is lying about his desire to ban and confiscate rifles, handguns and shotguns?
     
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    :lol:
    The function of the flash suppressor and/or bayonet lug has nothing to to with the reason the rifles were banned.
    :lol:

    But, if you believe this is the case, demonstrate to the class how a rifle with a bayonet lug is, functionally, so much more dangerous to the public than a rifle w/o one that the manufacture and sale of the former needs to be banned, while the manufacture and sale of the latter is acceptable.
     
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    No, the numbers don't work. American forces usually being outnumbered in most battles isn't comparable to how they'd be outnumbered against the population. And you can't separate that fact from the economical facts either. They go hand in hand. The american people have both the numbers and the economy. Like I said, the government wouldn't last a couple weeks....and that's if they could even get the armed forces to support them, which I seriously doubt.
     
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    You have to register to get one today, why is this any different ? And the “tax” is something that the NRA says they may have to pay based on the “type” of gun it may qualify as. That is also something in place today !!!!!

    Why are YOU lying about what his policy is ?
     
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    If it were actually about the appearance of the attachments and not their functions, then rifles with the same appearance that don't have the same functions would also be classified as assault weapons. A bayonet lug could potentially classify a gun as an assault weapon because it allows for a bayonet to be mounted to the front, it doesn't have anything to do with the appearance of the lug itself. Generally speaking it is a combination of features that classifies a gun as an assault weapon
     
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    You avoided the question, asked in reference to the 'assault weapons' I presently have, and that Biden wants to place under the NFA of 1934:

    If I don't pay the $200 tax and register them, or sell them back, what happens?


    We both know that once you provide a sound and intellectually honest answer to my question, above, you will be forced to admit that I am not lying.
    This is why you continue to avoid my question.
     
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    And so, again:
    But, if you believe this is the case, demonstrate to the class how a rifle with a bayonet lug is, functionally, so much more dangerous to the public than a rifle w/o one that the manufacture and sale of the former needs to be banned, while the manufacture and sale of the latter is acceptable.
     
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    A bayonet lug by itself doesn't classify a gun as an assault weapon, but when it is combined with certain other features it can, and the reason for that is because it allows for a bayonet to be mounted to the front.
     
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    You dont get a tax return.
    Better then the bans Trump put in place though right? At least its still legal.
     
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    Red states will ignore it the same way blue states ignore federal drug laws. We won’t enforce it the same way blue states refuse to enforce federal drug and immigration laws. My red state of Missouri has already passed legislation that will ignore a Biden ban.

    I won’t register my guns for Biden and I won’t sell them, as they are my property. My sheriff won’t enforce it. And since Biden’s proposal excludes the cops, that makes you all hypocrites who protest police for being violent killers, then turn around and want them to be the only ones with the AR-15s. Not gonna happen. If the cops get to keep theirs, we are keeping ours. Even Steven.
     
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    I have a better idea. I won’t register them or get rid of them. I paid my hard earned money for them, so they are mine. My red state of Missouri won’t enforce it in the same way blue states refuse to enforce federal drug laws on weed and immigration.

    And anyone who protests police violence and protests assault weapon for being “mass murder weapons”, then turns around and wants legislation that bans those guns from everyone but the same cops they protest for being abusive is an idiot.

    And we have a 6-3 pro gun top court to shut this crap down. If the cops get to keep their ARs, we are keeping ours. Even Steven keeps everyone honest.
     
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    I would say 200 is not enough, I would make it a 1000 and would have a federal tax on ammo sales, like 40%, naturally on all the self loader supplies.
    Internet sales 100% tax, gun shows the same.
    Let them have their guns, but make them pay for it.
     
  17. Siskie

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    His ban lets the cops keep theirs, so he is lying about them being only weapons of war and taking them off our streets.
     
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    What ban?
    Trumps the one who actually got something banned.
     
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    The ban he wants to pass excludes the cops. Anyone that protests police for being violent killers, then turns around and wants the cops better armed than them with guns they feel are only good for war, is a straight up idiot.

    I won’t register anything and I won’t pay a tax to keep expensive guns I already own. My property is mine.

    Missouri won’t enforce a Biden ban either, especially rural red Missouri where I live. You know how you all cheer when Blue states legalize weed in spite of federal drug laws and refuse to enforce federal immigration law? Well get ready for red states to treat a new federal assault weapon ban the same way. Womp Womp


    And 6-3 Pro Gun Supreme Court says what?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Thats not accurate.
    There is no gun ban. there wont be a gun ban.
    Trump who actually DID ban something gets a pass?
     
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    So why fool with bayonet lugs in law at all? Isn’t the supposed intention to save lives? How many people have been bayoneted in mass bayonetings? When’s the last time you saw a bayonet on an AR-15?
     
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    Tax the crap out of anything gun related.
     
  23. Siskie

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    Just play dumb then. The Democratic Party is the party that wants to ban the most commonly owned rifles in the country from everyone but the agents of the state.

    I won’t comply. If the same cops you people have been protesting all year long get to keep their semi-automatic rifles, I will be keeping mine regardless of what you do or don’t pass.
     
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    I handed in my assault rifle when I came home from Vietnam in 1970. I've never considered owning another one since. I never developed an interest in shooting up elementary schools. Maybe being a teacher had something to do with that.
     
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    Your elitism is showing. Kids around here usually buy their first vehicle or fund college by hunting and trapping in the winter. You really should educate yourself on practical use of firearms before making statements like the above.

    This is why elitism will be the demise of the progressive movement. Some people are fine with depriving others of things needed to make a living or simply do their jobs correctly. You can’t compromise with people like this because they don’t care how unintended consequences of their virtue signaling or outright authoritarianism affect others. They only care about themselves no matter how many times they formulate appeal to emotion fallacies to convince you otherwise.
     
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