Is the crushing of small business and law enforcement intentional?

It occurs to me that putting small concerns out of business, while large corporations like Walmart, Target, etc. are allowed to stay open isn't an accident.

Also, local law enforcement. I've fallen for the idea that "Defund the Police" is something really dumb people came up and simply has unintended consequences. Now I think there was a plan all along. Local law enforcement gets in the way of certain policies, like arresting criminals, which isn't what much of our leadership wants. Replace police with social workers? Perhaps for the interim. Then the social workers will be replaced with something much more terrifying than our police ever were.

 

Defund the police has not happened anywhere that I am aware of ??? Are you saying you have seen it happen ??

 

Why do you believe small businesses that are the same type of business as the big stores weren’t allowed to stay open? All of the small hardware stores were open and considered essential just like Lowe’s and Home Depot in my state.

 

We need to put all public employees whether the be Federal,Srate,Municipal or Local and the military on equal footing with the taxpayers that pay their salaries. THEY all have VASTLY SUPERIOR retirement plans than anything available from a private company to rank and file employees. The military can collect a pension after twenty years service, many cities police and fire department employees can get full retirement after 25 years on the job,our elected officials can also collect full pensions with minimal years of service. Nothing comparable to the benefits the people who work for taxpayers receive is available anymore to private or publicly traded stock company employees. Since 1980 all those kind of benefits have been taken away through downsizing and various other methods from these employees.

 

At least in my State one thing that stayed open were the small (and large) GUN stores, and they were doing a land-office business

 

Why do you like small business so much when they all sell the same stuff.

 

Not at all. The Democrats have turned our Democratic Republic into an oligarchy. They sacrificed main street to support China and their partners, like Bezos, Dorsey, Zuckerburg, etc.

 

Amazon(Bezos) supports many small businesses by allowing them to peddle their merchandise on his site and directly compete against him.

 

Remember that big business started as a small business but they just did it right.

No idea why people want to hate them for pleasing the people with their service.

One of the dumbest things I've heard of.

 

For the allegations you are apparently making, your Opening Post is negligently thin. It is also poorly explained, because, "De-fund the Police!" is a slogan associated with the political LEFT, while an unwillingness to make funds available to keep small businesses from folding during this health crisis, is the stated position of the RIGHT, that is, of Mitch McConnell & the Republican Senatorial Majority. The Democrat-led House has already approved a 2nd, Covid-relief, bill, including much support for small business, for unemployed workers, and for cash-strapped state governments, charged with the costs of managing the Covid response, including the distribution of vaccines, once they become available. Democrats originally wanted, I think, an additional $5 billion for these purposes, though they have come down, in an attempt to get the Republica-led Senate on-board with the plan, to about $2 billion, in current negotiations. Republicans seem unwilling to go above $1 billion, which would be, in their plan, used to INDEMNIFY predominently BIG BUSINESS against lawsuits resulting from workers contracting Covid due to, "back to work," orders issued by these companies.

So your OP criticizes both sides of the political spectrum, about two seemingly unrelated topics. Put even more plainly, the way you have written this OP, it should, by all rights, be TWO DIFFERENT THREADS, since there is no real connection between the issues, at least none that you have elucidated.

I suspect, however, that in your mind, you blame Democrats for BOTH of these things. There is, however, no factual basis for you to even speculate this, as it regards an anti-small business tilt, relating to Democrats in Congress. So, if that is your intention, providing some rationale for your belief that Democrats are intent on, "putting small concerns out of business," is contingent to your making that argument. The responsibility to supply a case, likewise, would impinge upon you if, instead, you were blaming the anti- small business Republican Senators, based on their current position, for the, "de-fund the police," movement.

 

I've noticed this too. The shutdown seems to very badly hurt small businesses, while not affecting huge corporations like Walmart and Target, and even benefitting some huge corporations like Amazon.

Large retailers sell so many things that it includes groceries and "essential items", so they can remain open to sell their other items too.

 

That should be an obviously disingenuous statement. There have been repeated calls from Progressives to "shut down" the police, and serious attempts to cut their budgets in half or even worse in many progressive cities.

A statement like the one you just made is almost not even worth arguing over, it will just distract from the main subject of the thread.

 

So no you haven't seen it happen somewhere.

 

That sounds like a subject for another separate thread.

Let's not get distracted too far down that topic, I think it would be unfair to the opening poster.

 

The OP states that local law enforcement is being crushed, I want to see proof.

 

There are multiple reasons for that. And that could be subject of another separate thread.

 

Well guess what? You're not going to get it in this thread.

You expressed your doubts that it's true, and that's fine, but we're going to leave it at that. The opening poster wanted to discuss many other things.

I hate these discussions that seem to wander off on the very first page and go off on some tangent discussion.

 

How is the a subject for another thread? Oh right, because you want to avoid answering it.

 

No, because I want to avoid this thread being derailed on the first page.

You want to talk about that specific aspect, why don't you start a separate thread and then post the link here. Then anyone who wants to argue about whether that's true (which will be a long discussion) can go there.

Many of these free-for-all threads never really seem to get anywhere, because everyone is talking about five different topics at the same time. It gets too hard to follow.

 

The question being asked is not a different subject. It is very much related to the OP. You just don’t want to answer it.

 

In my opinion, it's asking if this could be part of the same reason for the "Defund the Police" Movement, not how strong that Movement is.

If I want to "avoid" talking about it, that's because I think we need to try to be more careful to stay closer to the topic, for organizational purposes, so this thread can actually have a chance of getting somewhere.

You people don't seem to have a good understanding of what "on topic" really means. You turn it into a free-for-all and trash other people's threads. I'm sure you don't mean to do it, but that is what ends up happening.

We could argue on and on about what you want to talk about, but then I think this whole thread would turn into a very different discussion from what the opening poster wanted to talk about.

So I'm just going to ignore you and encourage everyone else to do the same.

Sorry. You're welcome to post a link to another thread though, if you want to talk about it there.

The proper posting etiquette on your part would have been to simply express your opinion in a simple one or two sentence statement, and then give a link to that specific discussion in another thread.

 

Thats true.

But when you shop local and buy from someone that lives in your community, they are likely also shopping in your community, paying local property taxes for their business and their home, and more of the money you spend comes back to benefit you. This happens somewhat at 'big box' chain stores because they employ people that live and consume in your community, but they also tend to buy their stuff from china, so some of your money goes there, and some of it just goes to corporate coffers. When you buy online, all the money you spend goes far away from your community.

Shopping 'mom and pops', even if its more expensive and less convenient will provide the best return for you in the long run.

 

That's a question you need to ask Trump. You know the guy that won't push forward with the stimulus bill.

 

Is big business exempt from local taxes?

 

Seems like you are dismissing very on topic questions so why don't you tell us exactly what our responses should be?

Unless we are to presume the OP is correct and don't dispute it but that's not how discussions work.