Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh assassinated

Anyone with access to the proper fissible materials can build a nuke. I could build one. The first russian nukes were just sealed up artillery barrels.

I'd make a large wager that Iran indeed already has some like that. But delivering something like that is difficult. Too large and too heavy for what Iran wants, which is tactical ICBMs. Making a nuke that fits on a precision guided missile that can thwart modern air defenses is a whole different ball game. Need plutonium for that.

 

Ah but Jews have always been blamed for all the **** in the World and never given credit for their contributions to humanity. So what else is new?

"If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greeks and Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, and have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmaties, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality? "

Mark Twain

 

Israel is an oasis of civilization surrounded by enemies who want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews there. The Israelis do what they need to do to survive

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Big tough Israel is always being mean to the saintly, unoffensive Muslim world.

 

Saudi Arabia also had reason to fear an Iranian atomic bomb.

 

Meanwhile it is Israel who go around bombing and assassinating their neighbours

 

You mean the people shooting rockets into Israel? Yes, Israel should bomb those terrorists. You typically do want to retaliate when people are launching explosives into your country.

 

The likelihood that Israel killed the guy is so high that reasonable arguments for some other actor being behind it are difficult to make or believe. Consider the history of assassinations against Iranian nuclear scientists:

2020, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, killed by ambush.
2012, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, deputy head of Iran’s uranium enrichment facility at Natanz, killed by a magnetic bomb attack while driving to work.
2011, Darioush Rezaeinejad, shot by gunmen riding on motorcycles.
2010, Majid Shahriar, nuclear scientist, died in similar manner when attackers rode up alongside him and stuck bombs to his car.
2010, Fereidoon Abbasi Davani, Iran’s atomic chief at the time, survived an assassination attempt that same day..
2010, Masoud Ali Mohammadi, expert on particle physics, killed by a remote-control bomb strapped to a motorcycle.

In addition Israel has bragged about successful intelligence gathering within Iran, massive hordes of documents recovered. Hundreds of covert and overt military strikes against Iranian backed operations in Syria and Lebanon, including direct strikes on Iranian military units.

I do not mind it one bit that Israel is killing men who pose so much danger as do these. What concerns me is the lack of a coherent strategy on our side, from our government. For example we pulled out of the nuclear agreement with no plan for what came next. Iran instantly returned to ramping up weapons research and production.

This is the routine and troubling pattern of Trump's Presidency. Loads of noise and bluster and tough talk. But no clear strategy, often leaving us in a poorer security position than before. Or, as in trade agreements, the political bluster is quite grand but the end result is wider cooperation among other nations both friend and foe, with the USA entirely out of the loop and struggling to create independent agreements with no clear strategy as to what it is we want.

Killing Iran's evil scum is a good thing.

America's chaos in foreign policy is a scary disaster.

 

When did Iran launch a missile into Israel? Meanwhile Israel regularly murders other nations people then cry with the poor me claims . Nice of Israel and the US going to bed with ISIS

 

Iranian proxies live right next door and carry out attacks all the time. No one is crazy enough to not understand Iran uses proxies to attack israel.

 

Russia and China also...
What's your point ?

 

Yes, Israel has a big Ego.

Right-wing media outlet Israel National News published an opinion piece Tuesday calling on Israel to launch nuclear bombs at Iran and Germany, only days after the outlet came under fire for publishing a piece accusing a war widow of killing her husband over her pro-peace views.

In the opinion article published Tuesday, the author claims that only through nuclear annihilation of Iran and Germany, with 20 or 30 nuclear bombs each, can Israelis prevent the state’s destruction.

Read all here:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/op-ed-calls-on-israel-to-nuke-germany-iran/
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This is alarming! There is plenty of hate in the Jewish psyche towards its imagined enemies. Let's hope the Germans and Americans keep them happy with $$$ and EUROs. If that cash cow ever dries up, we will all be in trouble.

 

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Oh Mark Twain... What an authority on racial achievements, lol.

And words won't matter much for the innocents who'll be on the receiving end of the iranians retaliations.

 

It is looking like at least part of the reason and it may be a big part of Israel murdering this man was to try and stop Biden developing a workable relationship with Iran and putting back into place the deal which America was part of and which it showed the world its voice was worth nothing when it reneged on.

Nuke chief's death said to be 'highpoint' of Israeli efforts to sabotage Iran | The Times of Israel

Whether that will work or not remains to be seen. Iran has shown itself to be cable of acting in a much more intelligent way than some of its opponents.

So we can see Israel working against the United States once Biden becomes President but it goes further than that. The situation in KSA is that Bin Salmen does not give a **** for the Palestinians and is up to creating normal relations with Israel and to hell with the Palestinians...I mean lets be honest, he is a guy who understands wanting to get rid of competition. He however has a problem and that problem is Dad. Though a bit loopy Dad is still 100% committed to the Palestinians and can see no normal relationship with Israel until the Palestinians have been treated justly. Bin Salmon hence believes he cannot be seen to be supporting Israel and throwing the Palestinians under a bus loud enough for Dad to hear.

However there is also talk that Bin Salmon will use his under the cover relationship with Israel to stop Biden mentioning his record on human rights.

Likely Israel now it is going to bed with the most brutal regimes in the world has learnt that if necessary she can do what she wants and together they make a much stronger bunch. Hell the far right in the US supports Israel and absolutely everything she does. The more violent the better. Trump and Netanyhu were best friends. What's the problem with a little war of rhetoric with the US. I also read Bin Salmon saying he would be killed at home if he involved himself in normal relations with Israel so maybe there is still somethin else there.

I hope the US is not on the list Jazz was talking about.

 

I am not sure why a scientist is not an innocent myself. I think there were more people killed here. There was mention of another car being attacked but not sure. When the US murdered General Qassem Suleimani which was to the anger of almost all Iranians it seems, they attacked a US base. People are seeing this attack as having the intent to stop Biden being able to normalise relations with Iran, take away the blocade and allow Europe and others again to do business with Iran. They believe the intent is to hit someone considered similar in regard to Suleimani with the hope of getting a serious reaction from Iran. Killing this man will do nothing to stop anything which Iran may want to do about nukes as they have plenty of people who can on that level fill in. Killing him it is believed was to goad Iran, hopefully get Iran to war before Biden comes in. People do not believe Iran will fall for this. She knows in two months hell should be over. At the same time it is KSA which is concerned that it will be the one attacked. They have already had two big attacks recently which they read as a warning from Iran not to get involved in stuff like this. (They also are pretty sure that if they are attacked the US will do nothing.)

 

I see this as the last act of a despot on the brink of being deposed, a "wag the dog", "hail mary" kind of tactic by Trump to create a situation he can take advantage of. I just hope the iranians are intelligent enough not to give him an excuse.

 

Also Europe and all of us.

 

I doubt that is true. Nobody in right mind wants targeted assassinations among nations to be the norm.

 

who was afraid of nuclear Iran? Israel, USA and Arab countries. All of them had interest to commit the assassination.

 

I do, I think it would be great if the UN employed a top team of Assassins and targeted the politicians who actually start wars! (bit tongue in cheek!)

 

You believe what governments say to you?

 

Did I say or imply that? Drop the condescending attitude.

 

Those of us who have actually been to Iran, spent time in the Mid East as a civilian and rely on sources other than Ziono-media believe Iran and find Iran for more trustworthy than our treacherous & parasitic Israeli "ally" who just managed to get Jonathan Pollard back in Israel.

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Nonsense, only America's infestation of Israel Firsters spread falsehoods about Iran's non compliance(1).



(1) "Iran adhering to nuclear deal with world powers, U.N. watchdog says"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...01f919a8c86_story.html?utm_term=.e451633a79ba

 

Well - you illustrate why we should not be doing this. Near anyone can be easily targeted and killed by an advanced nation state- sans a very few individuals.

How should Iran respond ? How would Russia respond if we did this to them .. or China .. and if we wouldn't do this to those two nations .. why is it OK to do this to Iran. No good answers to these issues - only - "we are going down a very bad and dangerous path".

Perhaps Iran will take the Trump approach - "If they kill one of ours - we will kill 1000 of theirs" or some such thing. Perhaps Iran should target 5 Israeli's living in the US .. two birds with one stone kind of approach as obviously this had US approval.

Can you imagine the horror that would create in the homeland .. "This is an act of War" people would cry - and they would be correct.