If Democrat States Could Ignore Trump, Republican States Can Ignore Biden

“....As we prepare for the ostensible Biden-Harris administration to assume power and declare sweeping national mandates related to COVID-19, energy, law enforcement, and the Second Amendment, we should also take note of the fact that the Democratic Party has, since 2016, built a solid foundation for new states’ rights that might save the American republic as we know it.

The “resistance” that thrived during the Trump administration featured Democrat-run cities and states establishing so-called sanctuaries against enforcement of federal immigration law. As fears arose on the left that the Supreme Court could overturn abortion rights, blue states began passing laws that guaranteed the right to abortion up until birth. As Trump attempted to pursue a national policy to deal with the Wuhan virus epidemic, Democratic governors declared that the federal government had no right to infringe on states’ rights to deal with emergencies.

These actions and others represent a definitive assertion of states’ rights against centralized policymaking by the president. Those who might be concerned about federal infringement of rights now that Democrats control the White House and at least one branch of Congress might find a welcome irony in this fortification of a new federalism courtesy of our friends on the left....”


Read more: https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/1...ore-trump-republican-states-can-ignore-biden/




This is going to be interesting to watch. It’s time to go all in on states rights and federalism. The democrats have perfected something conservatives had relied upon for years with their vision of it so it will be interesting to watch how Biden deals with it.

 

This whole very lengthy analysis is a very good read. It will be great taking the principles of federalism the left used for their favorite issues and using them to preserve and defend our key issues.

 

Very good idea. Unfortunately it will not happen. Trump (and most Republicans in general) keep to the Constitution, and have the courts as a whole against them. Biden will not be encumbered with either of those

 

Biden is also more of a pragmatist than Trump.

Trump was a vindictive little ass who took every vote against him as a personal affront, and wouldn't even try to
work with governors of blue states. He constantly took to twitter to insult and berate anyone who dared question him. Not a way to build coalitions or
reach compromise.

Biden has been around the political scene long enough to know that you can disagree with policy and yet still have a drink together at the end of the day.
I hope Biden can reach more of a compromise with the more mature Republican law-makers and Governors. Not on every subject to be sure, but
maybe enough times to make a difference.

Hopefully.

 

I'm not getting it. The article is hugely exaggerative, and kinda ridiculous. Seattle had an autonomous zone, not "Democrat-run cities and states."

This part insured me that the article is a pile of excrement: "As Trump attempted to pursue a national policy to deal with the Wuhan virus epidemic..."

GTFOH. Lol. The article is pure nonsense.

As far as states' rights go, nothing has changed. That's a figment of the author's imagination.

 

You mean like not get them thousands of ventilators, hundreds of thousands of PPE, build massive special hospitals in record time, send Navy medical mercy ships and crew, send thousands of support personnel? That kind of not working with governors of blue states?

 

All things that blue state governors had to plead for before Trump altered his, "It will go away by itself," stance at the beginning of the pandemic.
Trump would still be President if he had sat down with Governors from all the states and hammered out a cohesive National response - instead, all
we got was ...

 

RodB said: ↑
You mean like not get them thousands of ventilators, hundreds of thousands of PPE, build massive special hospitals in record time, send Navy medical mercy ships and crew, send thousands of support personnel? That kind of not working with governors of blue states?

Yeah, all of those things that Trump provided. They had to ask???? Oh, poor babies. You think Trump should have just sent stuff to every blue state whether they asked or even wanted stuff or not?

IIRC the Task Force had conference calls with pertinent governors every day or every other day or so. Is that the kind of getting with the governors to hammer out responses you assert the president should have done? That kind??? Can you give me any way that a National response would be helpful, or could even be hammered out or accomplished?

 

Good managers come up with solutions - bad managers come up with excuses. End of story.

 

Sorry. Governors had few problems with Trump providing everything they needed...AT THE TIME! Listening to them rant and rave for political points months later is meaningless blather. The bigger issues were states that didn’t have any supplies in the first place because they didn’t apply due diligence.

 

That about sums it up!

 

There are videos showing Newsom and Cuomo praising Trump for how helpful he was in meeting the needs of their states before Trump began pushing to re open the economy.

 

I think that Trump impacted the courts enough that conservatives relying upon federalism and states rights and broader definition of 1st, 2nd, 9th, and 10th amendments will be standing on firmer ground than we were when Obama was President

 

dems want to end the federal war on marijuana next month, let's see if Republicans really believe in States rights

 

All of which were to late.

 

It was so cool when the states were fighting with each other for PPE from vendors causing prices to skyrocket since there was not a national plan - every state for themselves

Though maybe cool is not the right word....

 

That is true. Trump has made good inroads in the court system. He even turned the 11th Circus into a halfway credible Circuit Court.

 

Yes, eventually Trump woke up and offered to help...
“For weeks, state legislators and health care providers across the country have called on the Trump administration to help with the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) available to fight the coronavirus pandemic. The Trump administration has meanwhile argued it is the states’ responsibility to procure PPE, a stance that has led states to compete with one another for supplies”
“After President Donald Trump declared the coronavirus a national emergency in March, he instructed governors to order their own ventilators and other PPE, saying the federal government is “not a shipping clerk.” Trump added the administration will “help out wherever we can,” but state leaders say that current efforts aren’t enough — and that the Trump administration’s refusal to coordinate PPE distribution has forced them to compete with one another for supplies.”
“We the states are trying to actively get every piece of PPE that we can. We’re bidding against one another, and in some cases, the federal government is taking priority,” Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said on CNN’s State of the Union.
A number of governors — including Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker — have said they’ve seen orders for masks and other needed equipment canceled because the federal government outbid them. This has led to some finding creative ways to disguise their orders to mask them from the Trump administration.”

 

No, Cuomo not buying them 5 years earlier despite his medical advisors strongly advising him on the necessities is why the ventilators were late. Trump had zero to do with it other than to pull Cuomo's ass out of the fire.

 

My, my, my! What tangled webs you weave. The facts can't be twisted much further.

 

I’ve said many times that if blue states can ignore federal drug laws and legalize weed in their states and not enforce federal law, the red states can do the same with a Biden Assault Weapon ban. They can keep those guns legal in their states and local sheriffs can refuse to enforce it. Between that and not having registration, a Biden ban would be impossible to enforce.

 

Not a fan of facts? Pity

 

You guys keep talking about this cohesive plan but whenever we ask what is Biden's plan for corona, you all come up short. You will need to do better if you want to prove Trump was bad on Corona..please tell me Joe's magic plan for the virus.

 

Democrat States Could Ignore Trump, Republican States Can Ignore Biden

This is simply a true statement. I removed the 'If' because its inconsequencial. FedGov would not long survive trying to force a state to cooperate, whether it was a Dem or a Pub admin. Civil Disobedience isn't very effective at the individual level, but as you start moving up from town to county to state, it starts becoming very effective. At the state level it is essentially unbeatable.

 

Well if state laws supersede federal laws, they can!

So, do you believe state laws supersede federal laws?