A Closer Look at US Deaths

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  1. AFM

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    After Covid? When did it end?

    "There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterwards"

    If the number of deaths stayed the same, who then died in this "sudden increase in death"

    Why have you posted a letter from a student?
     
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    Only 6% died from Covid-19 as the sole cause. There is no sudden increase in fatalities in that age group.

    I posted a data analysis.
     
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    I don't see the answers to the questions which were:
    After Covid? When did it end?
    If the number of deaths stayed the same, who then died in this "sudden increase in death"?

    Why have you posted a letter from a student?
     
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    A little less than 6% died for any reason when testing positive for COVID according to the CDC. This a very contagious virus but not a particularly dangerous one.
     
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    Ok. The excess deaths are not all directly from COVID though. Some are because people didn't get the medical care for their other conditions out of fear they would get COVID if they went to the ER, suicides, etc. It is somewhat arguable that our response to COVID had contributed to a substantial number of the so-called "excess deaths". For instance, Alzheimer and Dementia deaths tend to trend up with COVID spikes. Perhaps that is due to the lack of interactions as those patients get held in solitary confinement, perhaps it is nursing homes refusing to take them unless the family pays extra for someone to be in the room with them all the time. IDK.
     
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    Scamdemic lives in the minds of the hysterical masses and the pronouncements of the propagandists in the mainstream media.

    Yes they say, the Emperor's New Clothes are absolutely stunning! :roflol:
     
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    Ageed but the rate of fatalities for all causes in the older age group did not significantly increase.
     
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    Yes. The reporting on the pandemic has been such that these “reporters” would not graduate from journalism school.
     
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    And the danger is confined to the elderly with preconditions.
     
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    But they do very well in the Edward Bernays/Josef Goebbels School of Manufacturing Consent.
     
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    According to the CDC 94% of people over age 70 survive the virus. I don't know anybody over 70 without pre existing conditions.
     
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    On this particular aspect of COVID, I am agnostic at this point. I think it is too early to say one way or the other as there are many aspects to it, including changing demographics, seasonal correlations to certain types of death, etc. With a lot of things, it will take years to do a proper analysis.
     
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    COVID-19 means hysteria about COVID-19
    COVID-19 is a common cold virus, it has mutated and become more deadly then normal so it has caused some deaths.

    However you have to remember
    By far, the largest percent- age increase in the baby boom population (148 percent) occurred between 1946 and 1947, the first year of the baby boom.
    (c)

    Today is 2020
    I.e those people are 73 - 74 years old, the age when death rate increases exponentially.
     
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    The analysis is not surprising and shows that we are counting other causes of death as "Covid deaths" for people, most of whom would have died in 2020 from one of "the usual" top 10 causes.

    What is remarkable is that John Hopkins actually published the analysis before realizing that the findings are completely counter to the "fear and panic" narrative which is being foisted on an unsuspecting public. They quickly realized the error and deleted the article from their News-Letter. Fortunately, the internet "Wayback Machine" archived the information and now it is being widely circulated.
     
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    The 6% refers to people over the age of 70, most of which have such conditions. Below 70 the average deaths represent a lot less than 1%. Actually around 1 tenth of 1%. I find it curious that government treats the virus as though it were as dangerous as ebola or small pox and then posts evidence that it isn't very dangerous at all. Hysteria did the trick for them.
     
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    Yes. They are the lead propagandists for the Democrat Party.
     
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    I know a great many individuals over the age of 70 who do not have the CDC preconditions. My wife and I are two of them.
     
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    The percentage death rates per age groups is very well understood based on global data and is not changing. The Great Barrington Doctrine makes absolutely the most sense with regard to COVID-19. Open the economy and schools completely but protect the vulnerable. It’s obvious IMO that the virus will spread among the low risk individuals at the same rate regardless of which public health policies are implemented.
     
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    Agreed. The government claims to believe in science but does not follow the science. Under 18 survivability is 99.997%. Under 50 survivability is 99.98%. And we are closing schools.
     
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    This is still a virus where the most vulnerable is not based solely in a single factor such as age.
     
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    If you consider only age it breaks down this way in terms of survivability. Under 19 - 99.997%, (19 - 49) - 99.98%, (50 - 69) - 99.5%, over 69 - 94.6%.

    Age the predominant factor.
     
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    Not only that but it is from an archived version of the newsletter suggesting the original may have been removed
     
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    But it is the asymptomatic who are SPREADING the virus
     

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