Oregon fines Salem gym $90,000 for staying open, violating COVID-19 order

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    protestors get let go, not ones that are rioting or looting, once you're arrested for that, you're gonna have a record
     
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    Objectively wrong, once again you demonstrate a complete inability to keep up to date. I recommend changing your sources, its astounding you think no rioters were released lol.
     
  3. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only were some rioters released without being charged, many of the ones who were charged had their bail paid by celebs and Obama's pals, including a group supported by Harris. And Harris is something else, one minute she sends people to prison for doing the same things she did, the next minute she funding their bail.
     
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    She sent them to prison when doing so benefited her politically. Now she sees letting them go as a benefit to her political career. She is the model democrat. Political power is all that matters.

    Biden/Harris thought condemning the riots would hurt them because they knew the rioters were their potential voters. As soon as polling suggested that it would be a bigger benefit to condemn the riots, that's what they did. Does anybody really know where a leftist politician stands on anything? Just think about how many videos we can find of Biden/Pelosi/Feinstein/etc from years past that would indicate their views on illegal immigration are the complete opposite of what they were.
     
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    yeah, I can't help that some bail them out anymore then you can help that someone bailed out the Trump supporter that recently got charged with murder

    "Attorney: My Pillow founder Mike Lindell paid part of bail for teen charged in Kenosha shooting"

    https://www.fox9.com/news/attorney-...-of-bail-for-teen-charged-in-kenosha-shooting

    "Lin Wood, one of the attorneys, thanked actor Ricky Schroder and Mike Lindell, the "My Pillow" founder and prominent supporter of President Trump, in a tweet "for putting us over the top.""
     
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    That kid was defending himself, the attack on him by democrats is purely just hatred of guns and white people. Seems they have their perfect person to hate.

    But nonetheless, many were let off without charges.

    Rioters. So you were wrong, again .
     
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    Or perhaps, the FACT that the government is only restricting SMALL businesses, while allowing the biggest employers, like Amazon, to continue operating at pre-Covid levels, is contributing greatly to the continued spread.
     
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    And when the government is acting in response to an emergency, it needs to apply the law equally to all. If it only applies emergency measures to certain activities and/or groups, it can expect a backlash.

    At least in America...i hope.
     
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    Not true, they cannot ask you to close your business during an emergency. They can ask everyone to close. There is much selective application here, for a long time, and it's blatantly unconstitutional. This is NOT how emergency powers should be used, and all they are accomplishing, besides the current misery for many citizens, is degrading their ability to use these powers in the future during a potentially more serious emergency.
     
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    guess we will see as he was not charged with defending himself, he took a gun across state lines, not smart
     
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    if everyone would have worn their mask, they would not of closed, that is the sad part, Trump does not have a consistent message and has lied to the public so much, they do not know what to believe
     
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    Trump won't be in office soon so that will probably happen. Had he won we could probably expect Ivanka to sell it to the highest bidder
     
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    Didn't read thread. Gyms... the bastion of anti leftist men, together with the salons that older, more likely conservative women frequent, and younger LW women at the peak of their sexual market value don't have to. Churches, small service businesses, all overwhelmingly anti big government. Just a coincidence.
     
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    Fair enough. We will just have to disagree with it being okay for good people to fear government. I think it should be the other way around.
     
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    They guy loses his business regardless. The state needlessly destroyed his business and thinks the fine matters to him? He cannot even pay his employees thanks to the Democrats running the state and his city.
     
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    it was none of his business.
     
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    we are in the middle of a declared national emergency, in the middle of a pandemic, rules change somewhat in cases like that

    like issuing curfews when times require it

    I just hope the vaccine get here soon as I think we all agree that it needs to end
     
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    Ostensibly you can burn federal buildings in your own state, but god forbid that you run a business. F the gov of Oregaon. She's about as petty and small as she is lusting for power she doesn't constitutionally have.
     
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    One rule that never changes is: Do not depend on government to protect you in a time of crisis. Anyone old enough to remember Katrina should know that. Covid doesn't sleep and a curfew has zero benefit. Closing mom n pop shops so people have to crowd Walmart to buy the same item at a much higher risk is another example of why imposed mandates should face strong opposition.

    I will not be getting the vaccine.
     
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    sometimes you need help from the government, but your right, sometimes you can't depend on it, but still remains to be seen if Congress passes a stimulus, I think they will
     
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    I am certain they will.
     
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    I sure hope so. I'm gonna use mine to further enrichen Jeff Bezos and get myself a nice, shiny new 4k 80" (give or take) HDTV. Or maybe I'll just use it to pay my Biden tax increase, which is going to happen, even though I don't make anywhere near $400k. I warned you guys, but y'all wouldn't listen, and now you're gonna pay for that right out of your pockets.

    But since corporate taxes will also be going up, which means my share of those taxes will be going up by price increases, maybe I'm better off buying now before those price increases kick in. Decisions, decisions.

    Oh, wait, weren't you one of those guys who said that we customers didn't pay for business's taxes? Then nevermind, those incoming price increases will just be your imagination.
     
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    I find it absolutely hilarious and incredibly disturbing that so many on the left think that you can just raise taxes on businesses and think it won't affect everybody else in the form of higher prices and/or lower wages. It just defies all logic and yet they push on no matter what....
     
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    That's how they think.

    Solve all problems by imposing more requirements and burdens on businesses, because, after all, businesses aren't everyone else.

    There's plenty of hidden taxes that way too, like instead of taxing the worker they will make the business pay a payroll tax, which is basically the same thing, but the ordinary workers do not realize it.
     
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    Sounds like it's time for every business hurt by the shutdown needs to sue the state and their cities for all their damages.
     
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