Fox News says Pro Trump electors should still change the vote

True, you're worse. BLM is ostensibly non-violent and Antifa is at least open about it. Radical militias conceal themselves and plot to do criminal acts, they're basically underground lawless gangs with a political overlay, much like Stalin was a bank robber.

 

it was/is ALWAYS bad. Its NEVER acceptable to try to usurp the vote

 

LOL you're funny. Who is going around and attack people because they don't suppor them?

 

So if someone voted for a hitler/stalin/mao type of person, you would be 100% ok with that. Since upsupr the vote is a bad thing.

 

Reporting on what is news and activly usurping the electoral process are 2 completely different things.

 

Yeah, you make that whatever helps you sleep at night

 

What a short memory you have.

 

Laws can be changed in emergencies, like Pandemics. That's not illegal when it's done by another legal body.

 

Now do the state laws

Im guessing that after this there will be some very serious discussions about the EC.

 

I dont have a short memeory. I was against those who advocated for it in 2016. But those were mainly actors and activists. It was NOT the core of the Democratic Party themselves, nor was it sitting representatives and Senators who were advocating for it. Your smart enough to see the difference here.

 

Doubtful, to make any real change to the EC would require a Constitutional Amendment and I don't see that coming through. On the State level, there may be discussion about vote certification and how the State appoints electors, but I don't know if there will be significant movement. I suppose time will tell.

States should be pushing for mail-in voting systems the likes that Colorado runs.

 

NO. Im OK with the vote following the law. You're trying to create a straw man.

States have laws that require a set of electors. If the dem wins in a state, the "dem electors" are sent to vote in the Electoral College, if the repub wins, etc. What the right in this country is advocating for is to not do that, and send whomever they want to and elect Trump even though he lost. And doing so with no evidence of any impropriety in the vote (actually the opposite is true), and then installing their candidate.

Im just amazed that not only are they discussing it, but that the right in this country is actually advocating for it.

But by all means, please continue down this road to republican party irrelevancy for many years to come

 

Not a stawman, asking a question based off how you answered

 

I honestly dont know that is true lkari. The core of the republican party (the people) are not on board with this. It is the fringe of the party floating the idea, but with the mainstream media coverage it's getting, it is making them all look bad. The true republican party sees themselves being co-opted by Trumpism, and it is hurting the party. They know that to keep their party together, they need to stop this. The big question is, how far will they go to save it.

Trump is out, thats a given. And once the real republicans get ahold of the party again, I really think they will pull it back to sanity again. They see that line between Trumpsim, and true conservatism, and they know Trumpsim is a cult and is bad for their party

 

Foolish or "trying to steal an election"?

 

I don't trust those "real Republicans" to do much, though. They've been largely quiet for 4 years, so I don't think they have much of a spine. Plus it's against the GOP's interest to just scrap the EC since if we went to a strict popular vote, they'd likely never get the Presidency again, or at least not for some time.

I think mostly they'll do their best to just ignore the Trump years.

 

What do you think the remedy is for the massive irregularities, ignoring processes, no signature matching, and outright fraud during an election that makes it unverifiable?

 

Ahem you all in the RESIST movement tried for FOUR YEARS to remove a duly elected President.

Give me a break.

There is nothing wrong with challenging an election.

 

If you dont like opinions other then yours perhaps spend all day on facebook and nothing else.

 

If their is actual evidence of those things, they should be investigated. The problem here is that their is literally no evidence of that. There is a ton of bloviating and accusation, but when they actually had to go to court, EVERY court summarily dismissed the accusation due to a lack of evidence. They have yet to show one ballot that was switched, or that was illegal. Everything is based on "suspicion of" or a "someone said".

And lets not gloss over the fact that their IS a paper trail to follow in our electoral process. It has been followed in Georgia, and it proved the election was real. Everything else coming from the right is is conjecture and conspiracy. Show the proof and Ill be in line right behind you to make sure the rightful winner is sworn in.

 

No. Thats a rightwinglandia talking point.

You seem to leave out that we would never have had a special counsel if Trump had not fired Comey. That investigation is on Trump

 

A paper trail for illegal ballots counted means very little. Anyone saying there is no evidence are just fooling themselves.

 

Yes. As it always was.

 

Is it? So when democrats actively tried to overthrow and election an it was non stop reporting on Trump bad, you supported that. Why? And now that what so many folks have documented as being an election with some serious flaws in it, talking about that is sedition. That is some serious dissonance.

 

They can direct at their discretion