The Red Wave of Conservative Women Elected to Congress

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  1. Hey Nonny Mouse

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    Every student has to write essays. Every one. Engineers will even have to take Engineering Ethics, among other subjects dealing with politics. And the research done doesn't rely on students speaking out.

    Yes, there are conservative students who feel that way. Universities should do more to protect conservative students from bullying.

    Students are still overwhelmingly socially liberal, and that includes the engineers. Gun rights remain popular among a lot of students, and a significant minority are pro-life. But the overall trend is heavily socially liberal.
     
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    I wouldn't put the above manure on my veggie garden!


    Professors don't grade on original thought,
    they grade on agreement with their personal philosophy.


    Moi
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    That's not true. You can look up the research on this. Even those researchers who have found bias against conservatives in the university system found no evidence of professors discriminating against conservative students in grading. Plenty of students get As for writing papers that support conservative views. Plenty of others get Ds or worse for writing papers that support liberal ones.

    On liberal bias in academia, I strongly suggest that you check out Heterodox Academy, a group of academics of all political bents who work to combat bias.
     
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    I can also look at personal experience.
    Orange Coast College. Calif. State San Jose & Long Beach
    Univ. of Calif. Irvine & San Francisco
    Better than any self serving study by academia.


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    That will tell you your personal perception. Lots of students who don't get good grades blame the professor. Some are right, but most are not.


    If the studies were self serving, why would they report serious discrimination against conservatives in academia? Why would the conservative scholars involved want to play along? Why wouldn't other conservative scholars, who loudly condemn discrimination against conservatives in academia, not speak up?
     
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    I had near a 4.0 GPA
    because I finally figured out how to play their game.


    My fav example and lesson was the assignment to write an essay
    Who was the better classic hero per Oedipus example,
    Macbeth or King Lear.
    When asked his choice the professor declined promising fairness.
    When the class noticed the A's were reserved for King Lear advocates
    and the professor was questioned
    he answered anyone who understood the assignment would know it was
    King Lear. ;)


    Thanks but, I trust my experience.


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    Your experience weighs as much in general judgements about academia as any other student's end of semester evaluation of a single professor.
     
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    It's worth noting that liberal and openly Democratic Prof. Alan Dershowitz taught con law (I think it was con law) to Sen.
    Ted Cruz. Cruz did very well in the course, Dershowitz having called him "off the chart brilliant."
     
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    Because Biden and Harris promised to buy them off.
     
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    If you cannot grasp the fact my position is not about Trump winning he lost. I asked do you agree that something must be done so we don't have a repeat of this fiasco? If so what do you support then? That would include any voter suppression. Do you have any links to any filings or allegations of voter suppression, yes let's look at that too what do have? Where have peopled filed affidavits saying they were suppressed and by whom?
     
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    It's not the party that is changing it's the voters who are changing.
     
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    The Democrats lost 16 seat...........oh what do little details like that matter? And they were supposed to gain 12 that's a net difference of 28 seats......but hey water under the bridge let's just move on.

    Sarcasm switched turned off.....
     
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    Republican voter suppression.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/01/ben-ginsberg-voter-suppression-republicans/

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-campaign-2020-voter-suppression-consent-decree-1028988/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/trump-adviser-republicans-voter-suppression

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-24/voter-suppression-clouds-2020-vote
     
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    If you have something to say then say it? What actual complaints of voter suppression, how many thousands of votes and where did it effect the outcome. I asked you some direct questions please address them

    I asked do you agree that something must be done so we don't have a repeat of this fiasco? If so what do you support then? That would include any voter suppression. Do you have any links to any filings or allegations of voter suppression, yes let's look at that too what do have? Where have peopled filed affidavits saying they were suppressed and by whom?
     
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    He said he would end fracking and then changed his mind at the last minute for more votes.
     
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    The election wasn't a fiasco. The people voted Trump out, by the rules, fair and square. That was a good thing.
    I would hope citizens you be so down on voter suppression that no pol would think of trying to steal another citizen's vote. But short of that, I'm not sure how to fix something in an individual state that can impact who takes the two national offices in this country.
    Trump is a fraud. Voter suppression is a much broader question than Trump's ginned up affidavits.
     
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    He was forced to the left in the primaries and then took his real position. They all do it.
     
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    The election process certainly was and to think there are not citizens out there who would try to steal an election is folly. And where are all the filings of voter suppression? And if people filed false affidavits what do you think should be done with them, I say prosecute how about you?
     
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    I provided you a number of cites discussing the issue.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-red-wave-of-conservative-women-elected-to-congress.581451/page-7#post-1072257194
     
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    The AG said Trump's charges are baseless.
    Most voter suppression isn't illegal.
    Prosecute if there's a reasonable chance of conviction.
     
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    "To date..."

    First what is legal voter suppression. Second where did it occur and have complaints been filed with the FEC and DOJ Voting Rights section? And that should be a part of the needed investigation into the election, you claim this happened and had an effect yet you don't want to investigate to find out if true.

    If they filed a false affidavit yes there is a reasonable chance of conviction. You claim out of hand these are all phony affidavits but then you don't what to investigate them to check their veracity. They are sworn statements under penalty of perjury, if you are going to claim they are all false submissions then prove it else they remain credible.
     
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    It's too bad you're not reading the articles:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/01/ben-ginsberg-voter-suppression-republicans/

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-campaign-2020-voter-suppression-consent-decree-1028988/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/trump-adviser-republicans-voter-suppression

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-24/voter-suppression-clouds-2020-vote

    Two examples of legal voter suppression: deliberately creating voting delays, unnecessarily limiting types of identification.
    Most of the suppression is legal. Complaining is pointless.
    Not necessarily.
    A lot of them are phony.
    I didn't claim they were all phoney.

    Trump won't be allowed to prevent the Electoral College from declaring Joe Biden the winner.
     
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    Give me some examples of this proven legal vote suppression and not just blind links I know you know how to cut and paste. Where did it happen and what you listed is not targeted to one side or the other those are general election rules now where are you claiming this occurred?

    Yes necessarily.

    Prove a lot of them are phony, what is your evidence?

    I've never claimed Trump will prevent the EC from voting why are you injecting it?
     
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    I gave you examples. Creating long lines to vote in some communities and limiting identification voters can use unnecessarily.
     
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    Who did that in this election and where and be specific, if you can't be next time then you are just blowing smoke, now deal with the sworn allegations we DO have.
     
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