On poverty

Cut poverty? Then first cut crime. Crime breeds poverty and drives away employers and jobs. Criminals generally live in poverty because they are criminals.
Then turn around the war on the nuclear family, children by far are less likely to live in poverty when they live with a married mother and father, achieve higher educational achievement and less likely to engage in crime themselves.

"A twist of this issue—and a telling sign of our times—is that we’re barred from discussing it. Charles Murray once said, commenting on the connection between a vast range of positive outcomes for children and being reared by two biological parents who remain married, “I know of no other set of important findings that are as broadly accepted by social scientists who follow the technical literature, liberal as well as conservative, and yet are so resolutely ignored by network news programs, editorial writers for the major newspapers, and politicians of both major political parties.” That Murray himself is periodically shouted down on college campuses adds a nice touch.

While our fake systemic problem is on half the country’s lips, our real systemic problem is verboten. We don’t want to risk offense by mentioning an issue so touchy — and that touches nearly everyone nowadays in some way or other because … well, because it’s systemic. Because the family has been seen since approximately forever as society’s foundation, it makes sense from the traditional point of view that family decline would have pervasive social effects. Yet no one dares discuss it."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/our-real-systemic-problem/

Change the current state of education which drives everyone towards college rather than vocational training where those not qualified for college can gain a skill like robotics and give children and their parents CHOICE in where they will attend school.

Conquer those and watch poverty rates fall.

 

That isn't a California thing, that's a national problem, which has to do with the advent of neoliberalism in the United States, overall. \

This has been going on for a long time, but really took off with Reagan. Dems, too, but more so with Repubs.

 

From your link:
The murder rate in Missouri is particularly high. There were 607 homicides in the state in 2018, equal to 9.9 for every 100,000 people, the second highest murder rate of any state, after only Lousiana.
I said CA ranks with the lowest. Easy position to defend if you like.

 

Do you think some people in poverty remain there because their sustainability is provided by other people?

 

It never did. And I never claimed lowering taxes lowered priced. What lowering taxes does do is make production more competitive with tax avoidance as a profit maker and makes it easier for the little guys to get in business and stay there. That makes competition for labor more competitive and drives up wages.

Been a working man for 40 years minimum was never indexed to inflation. It was phased in over time. Usually in two or three stages over a couple of years.

 

yep, and it's fallen too far behind inflation, time to correct that

 

It never did. And I never claimed lowering taxes lowered priced. What lowering taxes does do is make production more competitive with tax avoidance as a profit maker and makes it easier for the little guys to get in business and stay there. That makes competition for labor more competitive and drives up wages.

Been a working man for 40 years minimum was never indexed to inflation. It was phased in over time. Usually in two or three stages over a couple of years. And usually 10 to 15 years before it was increased again.

 

You made a claim regarding what results Democrats would produce if Republicans didn't get in their way. This experiment has had its own petri dish for many years and results show that your claim is not only false, it actually causes more harm than good. If paying high taxes created a thriving, healthy society, I would still be a Democrat.

Republicans are no better. All the promises of a leaner government until they get the checkbook.

 

Post is still right where I put it.

CA leads the nation in poverty. Verified!
Schools rank with the lowest. Was 38th last time I checked.
Illness is at record levels. If you are not aware of our levels of obesity and the illnesses that follow, I will be happy to post links from the CDC.
CA ranks highest in murder. Highest according to my link, but if you have another source, I am happy to look it up and amend my statement.

 

The Left's 'can Do Attitude" won massively in Venezuela.

Now those same Leftists are starving to death and can get ZERO health care.

I guess that is what you call Leftist "Winning" and "Can Do"

 

The same picture is good for so many things.


sb93_15.pdf (census.gov)

States With The Best Public School Systems (forbes.com)
Illness is at record levels. If you are not aware of our levels of obesity and the illnesses that follow, I will be happy to post links from the CDC.

LOL the quote is from your link.

 

You forgot to factor in the cost of living.

Also from my link:


14. California

• Violent crime rate: 447.4 per 100,000 people

• Total 2018 murders: 1,739 (the highest)

 

Drivel.

Apparently you are unable to comprehend that the democrat party has nothing to do with totalitarianism

 

Since you claim to need Republicans to stop obstructing Democrats on their path to eliminate poverty, could you identify an area with a long term Democratic supermajority that has done just what you say? Others have already mentioned California as a counter-factual to your thesis, but I'm sure you could highlight successes?

 

If I believed half of what Republicans claimed about democrats, I'd still be a republican

BTW, before Covid, CA had a multibillion dollar surplus, but, never mind that, Here are some hard data for you:










Not to mention www.presidentialdata.org

• More than twice as many jobs are created per year under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents (1.95 million jobs/year under Democratic Presidents versus 825,500 jobs/year under Republican Presidents.)
• Budget deficits under Republican Presidents have been $4 trillion more than under Democratic Presidents.
• Ten of the last eleven recessions have begun under Republican Presidents (www.nber.org/cycles.html)

Since 1962

• GDP growth has been 75% higher under Democratic Presidents.
• Business Investment Growth has been 126% higher under Democratic Presidents.
• Unemployment has been 15% higher under Republican Presidents.
• Average increase in weekly earnings have been positive under Democratic Presidents and negative under Republican Presidents

Job Growth
Democratic Presidents have helped create 21 million more jobs than Republican Presidents, and on year-to-year basis jobs have grown nearly twice as fast under Democratic Presidents as under Republican Presidents.

• Total jobs created under Democratic Presidents: 68,312,000
• Total jobs created under Republican Presidents: 32,194,000
• Average yearly growth in jobs under Democratic Presidents: 1,952,000
• Average yearly growth in jobs under Republican Presidents: 825,500

GDP Growth
Real Gross Domestic Product growth under Democratic Presidents has been 75% higher than during Republican Presidents.

• Average GDP growth per year under Democratic Presidents: 3.50%
• Average GDP growth per year under Republican Presidents: 2.02%

Business Investment Growth
Real business investment growth under Democratic Presidents has been 126% higher than under Republican Presidents.

• Average growth per year under Democratic Presidents: 6.6%
• Average growth per year under Republican Presidents: 2.92%

Federal Budget Deficits
Federal budget deficits under Republican Presidents collectively are 54% higher than under Democratic Presidents (as a percentage of GDP, Republican Presidents have been 65% higher than Democratic Presidents).

• Democratic Presidents' annual deficits averaged 2.07% of GDP
• Republican Presidents' annual deficits averaged 3.42% of GDP
• Total Democratic Budget Deficits: $8,085.1 billion
• Total Republican Budget Deficits: $12,442.5 billion

Unemployment
Unemployment under Republican Presidents has been 15% higher than under Democratic Presidents.

• Average unemployment per year during Democratic Presidents: 5.59%
• Average unemployment per year during Republican Presidents: 6.43%

Growth In Spending
Federal Spending has increased twice as fast under Republican Presidents than under Democratic Presidents

• Democratic Presidents' annual spending increased by an average of $36.9 billion per year
• Republican Presidents' annual spending increased by an average of $78.6 billion per year

Balance of Trade
Trade deficits under Republican Presidents have been 39% higher than under Democratic Presidents.

• Total trade deficit under Democratic Administrations (in millions): $5,625,690
• Total trade deficit under Republican Administrations (in millions): $7,042,879

I mean, if your premise were even in the ballpark of true, the above wouldn't be true, or at least repubs would have done better, but, alas, they haven't, which was the big reason in the late 80s, having been a repub for 15 years, I switched parties when I looked at the hard data, after being disgusted with iran/contra and watergate, i'd had enough of republicans, there bullshit memes (party of 'small government' which, when translated means 'more goodies for rich people and less goodies for poor people', and overall criminality--Spiro Agnew, anyone? )

 

No people. No murders.
Pass it on.

 

Nonsense.

You are apparently oblivious to the steps the Democrat party is taking to revoke Constitutional rights.

It's as simple as visiting Joe Biden's own website.....www.Joebiden.com

 

Do you have ANY real, and not fabricated junk infographics at all?

everything you posted is junk, partisan gibberish propaganda.

If you have anything non biased and factual i will be the first to consider it.

 

Poverty in the U.S. is illusory, not actual poverty on any kind of world scale, and the shadow of it that exists is caused primarily by the Welfare State and the single motherhood cottage industry. No realistic LW wants this changed because the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex needs a permanent, dependent underclass, and without it would quickly lose power and relevance. This is also the same rationale for illegal immigration, but we all know that already.

All of the LW/Democrat LIE NARRATIVES on poverty, once the decoder ring is applied, amount to:

"More for ME, MY absurd gov pension that YOU in the private sector don't get, MY outlandish pay for little work, MY grafty grant, MY gov contracts, redistribution that fuels MY media, telecomm, social media related job, MY AFFLUENCE at the end of a government gun barrel at YOUR (the average private sector taxpayer, not "the rich") expense. More and more and more and more for ME and MY very comfortable Complex family and social groups paid for by YOU and your family and social groups... involuntarily at the end of a government gun barrel."

 

All of that makes the crumbling roads, poor ranking schools, cities on the brink of insolvency, and the poverty even more inexcusable. I am not defending Republicans. They are just as bad as Democrats.

Don't forget that CA has some of the most strict gun control laws. The claim that society would be better off if dems took control and reps stayed out of the way is not only easily proven false, results show that society as worse off.

 

It's not about equal outcomes, it's about equal access to opportunity, or rather, 'more equal as can be achieved legislatively'.

Teaching kids to be responsible and have healthy attitudes is also a good idea.

 

I'm all for strict gun control laws.

I posted results which clearly prove you are wrong, but you choose to ignore it.

If you ignore facts, what does that make you?

It' easy for you to sit there and render judgement.

As someone who lives and drives in CA, there isn't a day that passes where I'm not being redirected by WAZE or google maps because of Caltrans doing road repair causing a road to be constricted traffic-wise. As much as I find such things annoying I am pleased there is a massive department working on the problem, which, of courses, costs money which come from taxes. Rome wasn't built in a day, nor can it be repaired to YOUR liking in a day, either.

It's a constant never ending thing and whiners and moaners will always whine, gripe, and moan.

I went to an A/A in college for very little money, the result of taxes supporting community colleges that are affordable for anyone, a very small semester fee plus books, that's it. I could have transferred to a state college, but I chose to be a professional photographer, which, owing to being self employed, does not require a four year degree.

 

The sane thing would be to look at what they do in countries which have lower levels of poverty than the USA. Goodness knows, there are lots of them.

 

Proven false.

 

The pandemic has had the most effects on low wage workers in particular women many of whom have permanently lost their jobs never to see them return. The retail sales force which was primarily women will not return in the numbers we once had, the same is true of restaurant employees and airline stewardesses and counter workers. Low wage salaries and hours worked have all DECLINED during the pandemic. Once more the wealthy are profiteering off of the excess availability of low paid workers.