Trump attorney issues call for violence against truth-telling former election cybersecurity official

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you have no problem with Ronstar saying "Trump campaign attorney calls for opponent to be murdered" which is obviously not true.
     
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    Hope you didn’t hurt yourself pulling that one out of your ass.
     
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    I will ignore your unnecessary vulgarity.

    If Ronstar has simply said the comment was in bad taste. Most likely I would not have given it much thought. However, when he elevates it to "Trump campaign attorney calls for opponent to be murdered", that is really going to far.
     
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    Funny how the same person who defends someone publicly calling for someone to be killed is offended by a perceived insult and vulgarity. Hahaha...SMFH
     
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    As was your claiming that I specifically supported something when I made no such comment. Understand, dude?
     
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    Clearly, you don't understand the punishments for this kind of criminal activity. What do you propose would be the correct punishment for crimes of treason like this? But more, you content doesn't support your thread title. No one called for the guy to be murdered, and your own citation proves it.
     
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    Oh nonsense. It was an exaggeration, not to be taken literally. Everyone in their lives does it, especially in politics and the media. Flaming, torching, targeting, flagship, big guns, troops, zero in, triangulate, demolish, destroy, cripple, bombard, annihilate,...the aggressions are legion. This is so juvenile, I wonder why I even respond.
     
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    Do you really, honestly believe that he was calling for someone to be killed? Really?

    I served twenty years in the Air Force working with and for both the Army and the Navy. I have been insulted and chewed out by experts. I am not particularly offended. I believe it is unnecessary and counter productive because it usually escalates into an insulting match. It is simpler to just point it out and hope they stop. However, those prone to do it tend to be slow learners.
     
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    Seems some people are having trouble grasping the concept. It's not about whether or not he seriously meant what was said. No one should publicly make such divisive statements. No one....as in EITHER side.
     
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    But you have no problem with Ronstar saying "Trump campaign attorney calls for opponent to be murdered",. Isn't that even more divisive? Think about it.
     
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    Someone isn't thinking too clearly. Wow
     
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    I absolutely agree.
     
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    That does not make the statement any less inappropriate.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I said "Most likely I would not have given it much thought. ", I was speaking about Ronstar's comments.
     
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    My comment, "That does not make the statement any less inappropriate." refers to diGenova's statements.
     
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    Which was my point. Although I did not believe his comments were a big deal one way or the other. If someone thought they were inappropriate. so be it. I have heard such expressions enough in my life not to take them seriously. However, when it is elevated to "Trump campaign attorney calls for opponent to be murdered", that is going too far. I am really puzzled that no one on the left is bothered by that obvious misstatement which elevated it to a whole new level.
     
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    I liken it to people that jokingly say they have a bomb in an airport. It is up to security to take it seriously to determine if it's real or not. There is no doubt he shouldn't have said that but it's also not reasonable to expect EVERYONE to frame it as not being serious.

    Quite frankly, I am sickened by this whole thing (election, aftermath, media storms, etc.). People acting like children is not a good look at all.
     
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    Wow! That comment this idiot made is pretty distasteful, much like comments I've seen from the left (not saying that makes it OK, but doesn't, BUT, you guys love to ignore violence form the left)

    Think Kathy Griffin’s severed head.
    Think Madonna telling a rally she thinks about blowing up the White House.
    Think Shakespeare in the Park using a Trump stand-in for Julius Caesar — and the audience loving the blood lust.
     
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    Really??? When someone jokingly says they have a bomb at the airport, they have no way to know for sure whether it is true. In this case, he preceded "taken out and shot" by "drawn and quartered" . No one takes that seriously, except of course, the left trying to make something out of it which it obviously isn't.

    Not a single person on the left has expressed any problem with the OP saying. "Trump campaign attorney calls for opponent to be murdered",.
     
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    At least not against attorneys and whistleblowers that are coming forward.
     
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    Why does that matter? He said something he shouldn't have said. Nobody knows if he was trying to rile up Trump's base with those statements. You can't possibly think the people who are ticked off that Trump lost aren't looking for a reason and someone to blame.

    I am not really on the left but I've already said it was inappropriate. What more do you want/expect?
     
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    THe problem isnt weather or not he takes it serious. The problem is that these are serious positions of power, and that people actually respond to the words that comer out of these peoples mouth.

    A president, a senator, a congressman, mayor. Whatever.

    They REALLY have to be careful about what they say, especially when it comes to calls for violence. Because SOMEONE is going to pick up what they say and run with it. You know this is true.

    And honestly. using those direct words that were used, and in the wide open tv forem he used. Yes, I would say that you cant take his remarks as ANYTHING LESS than seriously. If he had said it to his neighbor in passing conversation. Sure, I can go with the argument that he didnt really mean it. But on TV? no... sorry, you need to be held responsible.
     
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    Right now. plenty of people. Which is demonstrated through the shear fact that death threats are becoming very normal. ( I got 3 myself yesterday on Parlar just for claiming that Obama was one of the best presidents of the century, and that Trump was trash ) and proceeded to have people threaten to kill me. And that was just on a small minor thread on a crap messaging platform.
     
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    Exactly. I can't believe the number of people that get worked up claiming that Trump "was joking" whenever he says anything off the cuff. Look at the companies that had to put out press releases to tell people not to inject themselves with disinfectant. The POTUS' words MATTER. That applies to any person representing the POTUS as well.
     

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