America suffered another 9-11 today: 3157 dead!

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, gotta counter the left wing nuttiness somehow.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Science. You know, what lefties claim they follow but follow with only belief.
     
  3. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ZOMG!

    There are morons and lunatics who are democrats, too? You don't say.

    Wow.... you are full of valuable information today. Thank you so much for that highly informative post.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not according to the other guy who said its only Trump people and antifa not wearing masks.

    You two should get together and synch up your stories
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    All of which is absolute horse crap. It did not happen. I've yet to see a single bit of evidence supporting any of that. Trump recommended lock downs back in March given that we now know the disease had already been here for at least 4 months by then that horse had already left the barn. Note even CDC wasn't recommending lock downs before then nobody was.

    Without Trump there is no vaccine before 2022 if then. Without Trump there is no private public partnership in the production of ventilators and PPE. And that's just for openers.
     
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    Some people indulge in temper tantrums and ignore the facts.

    The vaccine is a very important achievement and even CNN gives Trump considerable credit.

    Let’s forgo the blind partisan rage and look at the facts.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/coronavirus-media-wrong-about-trump-testing-strategy/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-biden-called-trumps-travel-restrictions-xenophobic/

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/pol...-praises-trumps-coronavirus-response/2371465/
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What would you expect I would respond to this question? I'm puzzled because this is so easy to answer. And so many Trump loyalists ask this, as if they were putting somebody in some sort of "predicament".

    It's easy. But since so many on the right seem unable to come up with anything on their own, I started a thread to help them.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/if-you-were-the-president-what-would-you-do.582084/
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know.... and their name is Donald Trump.

    Yes. Because if we had any other President, they would never have thought that a vaccine was necessary, right?

    What nonsense! It's his job! This is like giving a pilot "credit" and "praising" them for completing a flight from New York to Los Angeles without crashing!

    The fact that Trump has been so incompetent that this is only one of the very few instances in which he does the job he is payed to do, does not mean he deserves any special credit for it.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What should Trump do?

    Its a ****ing PANDEMIC do you know what that means?

    Is he just supposed to like Will it to go away? Wave some kind of magic wand?

    People die in pandemics. Always have. Always will. If they didn't, it wouldnt be called a pandemic.

    Good lord
     
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    At least we have gotten you to the point where you have admitted that he did indeed do his job. Now we just need you to stop saying he "did nothing" and his "lack of action" results in "hundreds of thousands of deaths". We are not asking you to kiss Trump's arse, just stop with lies is all we are asking. Trump did everything a President should do. If you don't believe that is true then kindly show me why you believe that. This is simply something liberals just can't seem to do. I'm not gonna google it. No I haven't been listening to the non stop main stream media slander of our president. I want to know what you believe he has, or hasn't done, to be responsible for "hundreds of thousands of deaths." Be specific and not general please.
     
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    Agreed, we definitely need to find a way to limit as much viral spread as we can while the scientific community continues to work on vaccines and treatments. And hey, if Biden's 100 day ask for masks work, then I'm all for it.
     
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    Oh, for sure. Every time his biggest effort was to pick up a pen and sign a paper, he did do his job. Nothing much else, though. Other than things like... pardoning two turkeys on Thanksgiving. One of them had committed no crime to be pardoned for. The other one was named Flynn.
     
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    Uh, what? That makes no sense. I thanked you for your informative post. I had no idea team blue did bad ****, too. I've been enlightened.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Summer!

    And now comes the increase in spread and deaths. Which will be worse than anything we have seen so far of this virus. And it's just starting now. Next week will be worse... the following even worse.... The number of deaths will go up exponentially in three to four weeks. Today is December 4. This month began at 263 thousand dead. By the end of the month there will be somewhere between 320 thousand to 340 thousand. That means that about 25% increase ... a quarter!... of all the deaths due to Covid since the beginning of time (or January of this year)... will occur this month.

    And let's not even start thinking about January 2021! My God, this is going to be rough!

    Hold on to your hat, because this country is in for a ride on board the Trump Incompetence Roller Coaster.

    Evidence? Tell you what. Save this post. Check back with me in a couple of weeks and let me know if I'm on the right track. Then let me know how close my predictions were at the end of the year.

    Oh and... Happy New Year!
     
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    I hope they do not give the healthcare worker one vaccine and the people the other, that may lead to more distrust

    personally, I want to choose what the healthcare workers choose for themselves
     
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    should teachers be on the top of the list to get vaccines too, as they work with children that will not get the vaccine?
     
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    For your info, and in this forum, several Trump's loyalists have blamed Governor Cuomo/a Dem state government for New York's high number of deaths per 1M pop.

    And Ironically, 5 Republican States will soon surpass NY's number of deaths per 1M pop.
     
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    Yup!

    There is another 100k deaths on top of the "official" 285k and it is still going to be several months BEFORE the vaccines are available and people are lining up to get them.
     
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    Do I care about what?
     

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