Opposition to bill of complaint. MI,WI,PA,GA respond

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    If you think laws were changed you're believing a lie.
     
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    Really? The election law in Pennsylvania says that ballots must arrive and be collected by the end of election day. Those that arrive late are not to be counted. Pennsylvania counted votes that arrived after election day. It may not matter to you and, frankly, it doesn't matter to me either but the law is the law. You change laws through legislation not some other method.

    The sad part is that Pennsylvania voters didn't know that this was the case because the secretary of state decided to extend the period unilaterally. The law says one thing, the Secy said another. Not the fault of the voters. It is corruption. Nothing unusual about that in government. But I'm happy for you that the election wasn't overturned. It would have been entertaining but a true disaster. It was never going to happen. The supreme court would never disenfranchise all those voters.
     
  3. dairyair

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    Meaning, it isn't worth their time. It's baseless.

    I am no lawyer.

    In the United States, the current doctrine is that a person cannot bring a suit challenging the constitutionality of a law unless the plaintiff can demonstrate that he/it is or will "imminently" be harmed by the law. Otherwise, the court will rule that the plaintiff "lacks standing" to bring the suit, and will dismiss the case without considering the merits of the claim of unconstitutionality. To have a court declare a law unconstitutional, there must be a valid reason for the lawsuit. The party suing must have something to lose in order to sue unless it has automatic standing by action of law.
     
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    Again, no court in the country seems to agree with you. Not even the states where it had been questioned.
    No laws were changed. That can be the only conclusion from all the fake law suits.
     
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    10K ballots impacted; Biden won by 80K and I am not sure they were ever counted
     
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    Very true, Indy.

    Although, I do find it puzzling that so many are beating a dead horse over A MOOT Point.
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    But it is fair, the 50+ lawsuits are either by Team Trump, or allies, ALL for the purpose of giving Trump another term.
     
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    True, Pat.

    There is no such thing as an "Unfair Attack" against a Pathetic Bully (like Trump).

    I am going to be so glad to see him gone.

    Jan. 20 can't come soon enough.
     
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  9. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They didn't so they set up an office in Alaska for the express purpose of recruiting citizens to file them. Once she was gone they closed up shop.

    They had teams of lawyers with the charges already set to go, they just needed a plaintiff. She wore a snowmobile suit that had the manufacturers label on it so they filed an ethics suit claiming she was sponsoring coperations with her governorship.

    And that wasn't even one of the dumbest ones. Also remember that this happened after Obama had won so it was purely out of leftist hate for the woman. It was a targeted, planned political hit by the DNC.
     
  10. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I heard those accusations before but thevwaybI heard it was an internal food fight. Seriously Palin was an underdeveloped lightweight with a nothing record who was tapped only because she was a woman and MCCain was sold a bill of goods to have his minority to offset the democratic minority. She had cutesy sayings and not a dog so the guys liked her. She lacked substance so she did not appear to be the one wvho could arepa in if something bad happened to John.
     
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    There is no doubt that it is your conclusion. Not mine.
     
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    Do I have to repeat myself every time I post anything? I didn't say that it would impact the election. I said that it was illegal to count those votes. Please refrain from responding to things I didn't say. It is time consuming to repair.
     
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    Neither am I. My honest opinion is that they refused to take it up because it might disenfranchise voters who didn't do anything wrong. And of course, to allow Texas to win its suit wouldn't affect the election results. Given that they still could have found that changing election laws without legislation is unconstitutional. It may have prevented another instance of it in the future. I think that was worth their time.
     
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    No, its not my conclusion. It's the conclusion of 55 court cases. Including the USSC 2 times.
    No one but you can come to your conclusion and there's nothing that says your conclusion has to be fact based. It is your conclusion.
     
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    "Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot," the court said in an unsigned order.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-texas-election-lawsuit-challenging-biden-win/

    I see nothing from the courts statement about disenfranchising voters. Just that "Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot,"
     
  16. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She did fine as a governor and McCain threw her under the bus when the left went after her. None of that is relevant to the democrats burying her in bogus lawsuits and now whining about Trump doing it.

    Fair is fair.
     
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    MCCain soured on her because she became an albatross around his neck. MCCain was coerced into taking her as a running mate. As far as the lawsuit or investigations went. It was Alaska who had to investigate her due to Trooper Gate where she had Alaska state troopers go after her brother in law because he was in a custody fight with his wife Palin's sister. I would have to check about those alleged law suits because that just does not sound like it actually happened in any major way.
     
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    Troopergate was separate and not tied into the DNC. McCain fed her to the wolves but nobody expected th e left to go into a sheer rage over her, which they did.
     
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    I really do not recall the left going after her. Was that after the 2008 election.? I still attribute MCCain losing. because of her sofrankly if the left did go after her I am not sure if I cared at that time. It just does not make sense why they would go after her after MCCain lost. What would they gain? She was only governor for two years. Oil money royalties were flowing and the citizens of Alaska got oil money distributed to them. Oil money went into the Alaska coffers. So she did not have to worry about a budget crunch. Was it the environmental groups piping at her?
    It still makes zero cents why the DNC would bother going after a nothing lightweight such as Palin.
     
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    Do you have any links about the DNC FILING LAWSUITS against Palin in Alaska. I find nothing at all.
     
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    I've posted that all years ago.

    If you are still not aware of it then a link now isn't going to help you.

    If you are curious just look up why she left office early but I'm not gonna debate things that should be general knowledge.
     
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    How can anyone be aware of something that very likely never happened and if it never happened it cannot logically be "common knowledge". I am not saying that there weren't any lawsuits but that the DNC conspired with people in Alaska to take down a half term governor is laughable on the surface. Such a scenario could only lived in the same dimension as QANON which had not existed at that time. Seriously SPOOKY we hear so often people say that something happened but MSM suppressed it from reporting. News networks are like hungry Zombies they will eat each other just to be the first to report a story. It's a bit like millions of "Biden ballots" came in on boats from North Korea through ports in Maine. that is just an attempt to start a conspiracy story by Roger Stone.

    Do you see where our country has fallen to? When a POTUS and his followers bark thousand out false accusations of hoaxes, frauds, phantom ballots from North Korea, and lying that he did more for Afro-Americans than Abraham Lincoln and tops it off claiming that he won this election there is nothing that any supporter of that POTUS can tell me that I will believe without solid facts backing up that statement that I can verify myself. That is the depth that this POTUS has sunk our country into.

    The motto of this administration is CREDIBILITY LOST.
     
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    Hardly a conspiracy when it's in the court records but keep believing she just woke up one day and decided not to be governor anymore so she quit, lol.

    No amount of evidence is going to ever change your mind about her, that simply is impossible at this point.
     
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    I am not saying that she did not decide to quit her office but to blame the DNC is only a step better than blaming space aliens for her decision.
     
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    ok but like I said, the lawsuits were real, you can go look them all up. It's also a fact that the DNC opened a branch in Alaska and on their website in big letters it said their goal was to remove Palin from office.

    But you're right, she probably just made all that up.

    You could even pick up her book where it's all sourced but those are probably faked also.
     

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