It ain't over.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is neither a credible argument to be made over standing nor is there evidence of fraudulent voting in the states in question.
     
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    Spot on!

    Even when Biden is "installed" in the presidency it does not mean anyone has to accept it. The establishment wants anyone but Trump as president. The media now has decided to start reporting on Hunter Biden's corrupt activities. Looks like the knives are out for the Bidens. That is OK with the establishment because Kamala is just another empty suit like Joe is.

    I will be watching as the left realizes they will get nothing unless the establishment oligarchs approve.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ A curious thing the FBI going after a Biden. Could be this is how Joe is removed to make way for whomever Democrats want in that spot . We shall see ...
     
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    It could be the establishment thinks sacrificing Biden will appease the masses who are pissed about this stolen election. They want things to be as they were before Trump came along. "The good ol' days" were when either candidate would do the oligarchs bidding.
     
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    Yes, the Dem Party's 'win' is a clusterfork so far as the concept of 'clean' is concerned. Sure it's easy for them to convince their worshipers that there was no fraud whatsoever because leftists NEVER cheat or do anything racist or (fill-in-the-blank) and because the leftist loyal Mainstream Media obediently 'report' by way of a See, Hear, and Speak of no election fraud evidence whatsoever. But thinking people know what happened. All these Republican judges know what happened, but they are terrified of rocking the political boat.

    President Harris -- because Dementia Joe Biden will obviously be nothing more than a place holder until the DNC tells her to go ahead and officially become president -- will be even more overtly nation-hating and, yes, racist in her approach to being president than even constantly race-agitating and nation-despising Barack Obama was.

    Whether or not we still have a United States of America remaining worth defending after four years depends on if anything meaningful is done to ensure that another open and blatant theft of the presidency by the Left CANNOT reoccur. But what are the odds that a successful theft will be followed by making sure that the thieves now in control cannot steal again? Slim and none? So we shall have to wait and see. Personally I think that this open election theft marks the end of the United States as a Constitutional Republic of a nation. Venezuela . . . here we come . . . courtesy of the increasingly insane and irresponsible political Left of this nation.
     
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    Congratulations on ANOTHER 100% FACTLESS post that you are INCAPABLE of substantiating with anything remotely credible.

    Given that you were also 100% WRONG about your biggest LOSER*-in-Chief AND the fake lawsuits your smart move would be to quit while you are only this far BEHIND.
     
  7. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ The lazy Republicans who are afraid to fight are also at fault. :steamed:
     
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  8. Gatewood

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    Yes.
     
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    You spent 4 years bleating about a democrat landslide and blue wave

    You lost everything, you lost the Senate, 13 seats in the House, 180 seats in state houses and 45 seats in state senates, all local elections, the Republican control all branches of the Government in 31 states
    and the dems had to steal the presidency by illegally changing the laws and preventing independent verification of even mail-in ballots.

    The american people's disgust with the toxic and radical leftist ideology of violence and fascism could not have been expressed any louder.

    You of all people should talk :roflol:
     
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    That's not correct. Alito and Thomas did not state that they believe Texas has standing.

    SCOTUS denied Texas' motion for leave to file a bill of complaint. Alito and Thomas are simply stating that in their opinion, "original jurisdiction" obliges them to allow the complaint to be filed - and that's all they're saying, hence they add that they "would not grant any other relief".

    Statement of Justice Alito, with whom Justice Thomas joins:
    In my view, we do not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction.
    [See Arizona v. California, 589 U. S. ___ (Feb. 24, 2020) (Thomas, J., dissenting)]. I would therefore grant the motion to file the
    bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue."
     
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  11. ChiCowboy

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    No **** Sherlock. I tried being friendly yet you respond with drivel. Worthless and hopeless attempt on my part. Trump lost the election. That only one out of three people in Shasta County voted for the winner just tells me Shasta County voters like losers. One of your next door neighbors likes winners. Sorry, somebody has to lose. Didn't have to be you. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to vote for a loser. Sounds like introspection is needed. You ain't gonna find it here.

    Again, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO HAYFORK?
     
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    Not in NorCal. Coffee is 2.95 at the Eureka Denny's
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no need for anyone to explain or justify illegal manipulation of election laws to commit election fraud because, as the dismissal of case after case has shown, it simply didn't happen. With one, possibly two exceptions, election practices have been found constitutional and consistent with statutes and election codes.

    Exceptions would be Michigan's proposed mail-in arrival deadline extension (denied) and possibly Pennsylvania's extension - still undetermined, as the Republican Party hasn't yet opted for SCOTUS review.
     
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    Conservatives want a government that keeps their hands out of our pockets, and essential leaves us alone. Maintain interstate infrastructure. Defend the borders from foreign attacks. Ensure that the economy is open, foreign trade agreements are fair and people can find suitable employment. That's it. Conservatives are for federalism, heavy on states' rights solving problems closer to home.

    Liberals want a government that controls every aspect of life and taxes both the consenting and non-consenting to take that authoritarian control. Liberals are for Statism, with the feds controlling as much as they can in a blanket approach.

    That is a chasm which will be impossible to bridge.

    What Democrats can't figure out is that laws that partially work for large cities do not work anywhere else in the country and most people do not want to be forced into nationwide compliance with policies which only work for half the people who are crammed into high-density cities. It's even arguable today whether these liberal policies are working for the majority of people in urban areas.

    The reason most laws should be left at the county/local/state level and the federal government should keep their grubby hands off legislating items which impact everyone is because the only way the political divide gets closed is to move back toward heavy federalism and away from statism.


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    ....and yes, there are many conservative precincts even in New York City....

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-03/map-of-precinct-reporting-of-the-2016-election
     
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  15. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too late for the 2020 election results to ever be accurately known due to all the irregularities which occurred with executive officers and partisan judges stepping on the toes of state legislatures and their constitutional imperative that the legislature sets election laws.

    This is the Supreme Court case to watch in 2020. https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-1257.html

    The case originated in April 2020, and seeks for the Supreme Court to clarify several items surrounding Section 2 and the 15th Amendment, as well as to firmly distinguish the separation of power between a state's executive/legislative/judicial branches in election laws.

    The case will be heard by the S.C. The deadline for filing submissions by interested parties is January 13th.

    So "nothing" on this election, but the questionable actions and chaos Democrats created this year will hopefully be straightened out by the 2022 mid-terms or by 2024 at the latest.
     
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    I'm beginning to think that 2016 was a fluke and the Dems got caught with their pants down and thinking Hillary was a shoe-in didn't bother to crank up the fraud machine. I'm convinced that even then there was some amount of fraud but only as a little insurance but it wasn't enough. What happened Nov 3rd was the result of four years of plotting and planning, fund raising, arm twisting, black mail and murder. Thrown in with that was the constant harassment to keep our eye off the ball. Now there will be a campaign of gas lighting and the usual libel against all opponents. I suspect that PF and others will become verboten and all other media will be severely restricted. Eventually there will be penalties for conservative opinions, bet on it. Honestly, I always thought this would happen but thought I'd be gone before the SHTF and looked forward to maybe a decade or so of living in the same America I was born in. That is not going to happen. Think about this friends, absolutely every mechanism to prevent what is happening has been subverted, every fail safe has been destroyed, this is no other explanation and at some point they will even admit it. We rode out eight years of Obama but the man was a sock puppet what we are up against now is much, much different. What we are witnessing is an evil that eclipses all of the corruption we've witnessed in our history. What happened is glaringly obvious yet all attempts to stop it have been shut down, who has the power to do that?
     
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    Clearly all of that is coming, but I figure that it is still a fair number of years away. I also figure that I am going to be considered too old to bother getting put into a leftist re-education camp by the time that they gain enough power to finish turning the Constitution into their toilet paper.
     
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    I'd give it 20 years at the earliest and 40 years at the latest for the U.S. to become another failed state under Globalist/Liberal/Democrat policies. In 20 years, they'll be euthanizing the elderly and any other useless eaters, so I'll probably go out with a free government-provided "happy shot" administered by the U.S. Bureau of Compassion.
     
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    There is a reality out there, not that a person could tell from your writing.

    One of the things Republicans do is suppress voting in districts that don't vote for them. One of the big things that happened is that, because of Covid, a few Republican states made voting possible. I was genuinely surprised to see Georgia do that. The guy running the elections there isn't perfect, but all that extra time made it possible for more Black voters to vote than had ever happened before. I suspect they will dump that guy for a more typical corrupt hack.

    There was a lot going on that will need to be studied, before we get a definitive analysis, or something close to it.

    What I wanted to point out was that an incumbent president has serious advantages going in. I was really worried the monster would win. But what happened was that Trump pissed off a lot more people than those that liked him. Which is not what you'd call surprising. He started out with global protests against him, not your silly MAGA numbers, either, millions in a bunch of countries.

    That would prob not have been enough. Republicans have a lot of dirty tricks. But Covid got some Republican states to make voting easier (not easy, minority voters still had to stand in line for hours, but it became possible and Black voters saw that this was their chance).

    Trump got more votes than any other candidate in history, except for Biden. That also deserves study, it looks like they have gotten entirely too good at brainwashing. Biden got several million more votes.

    Anyway, just wanted to say I rarely see that much projection. You make it look like the Voting Rights Act wasn't there to keep Republicans from going full blast Jim Crow.
     
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    An affidavit is NOT evidence of a crime!!!! If it were, every rapist in the country would go to jail.
     
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    Republicans routinely try to kill Medicare and Obamacare. They won't spend money to kill you, they'll just let you die once they get finished killing off social programs.
     
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    Pretty much ended when the Reagan Republicans found they could raise the National Debt by 170% and still be popular - every President
    since has gone the same route - buying good economies with government spending. Trump ended up being the worst of all - raising the debt over
    $7 trillion in just four years (Obama raised the debt $8.9 trillion in 8 years). I'm sure it's a trend that will continue.

    Republicans whine about the Democrats - but they are just a ****ng crazy when comes to spending - they just have different ways of doing it.
    So, right now, we have a Debt to GDP ratio over 110%.
    We can contrast that to the Chinese and Russians who are at about half that. The Swedes, Norway - hell, even Mexico are about
    half that.

    So when "Conservatives" start talking about the dreaded "others" they might want to pause and look in the ****ing mirror.

    There are reasons I don't belong to EITHER of the idiotic parties. Friggin' Hatfields
    and McCoys - BOTH suffering from the same dumb-assed problems and BOTH pretending they are superior. Friggin' ass hats.
     
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    He said without evidence. Based on the facts available to us your belief boils down to a conspiracy theory.
     
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    All we have to do is listen to Billy the Bagman.
     
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    I see Republicans post this bull crap all the time - claiming they want government "out of peoples lives" - while at the same
    time passing laws on who you can marry, what type of sexual practices you can partake in, what you can do with your
    own reproductive system, what kind of drugs you take take, whether or not you can take your own life ...
    Republicans are just like the Democrats when it comes to control ... they just have different priorities.

    So you can pretend roses grow from conservative asses - but the reality is far different.
     
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