Thousands of Israeli tourists flock to Dubai for Hanukkah 'Emirati people are very hospitable to us'

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Just incredible! I hope this type of tolerance will spread to other Islamic countries that recently established relations with Israel. Would you go to Dubai:
     
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    Dubai isn't really political at all, it's the billionaires playground.

    Politics or any sort of terror is kept strictly out.

    Probably one of the safest cities in the world.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And it all happened without Palestinians saying their important, decisive word! What an outrage!

    Sleepy Joe must cancel all these peace agreements and start anew, with Palestinians taking centerstage.
     
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    Palestinians didn't have a say when Egypt made a deal with Israel four decades ago. Doesn't look like you know much about the history.
    The Orange Oaf lost the election. Get over it.

    P.S. I told you Trump would lose because Americans are tired of the turmoil.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aren't Palestinians pissed, all these peace accords are happening without them saying their important word? Of course they are.
    Did not sleepy Joe said he'll make Palestinians an important part of his Middle East politics? Yes, he did.

    What are you not happy about?
     
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    This may actually be one of the enduring legacies of the Trump presidency, it seems that playing hardball has paid off?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Always, if one knows how.

    Peace in the Middle East
    North Korea behaves
    NATO pays its fair share

    Just to begin with.
     
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    Palestinians have been pissed since Balfour.

    After WW2, they had potential deals in hand far better than anything they might get today...

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    The train has been slowly leaving the station since deals with Egypt and Jordan, far more important than recent limited deals with minor players.
    He did. He should have. And...?
    Trump is hyping a relatively minor achievement that's a product of the bipolar saw off in the Muslim world between Sunni and Shia, Saudi Arabia and Iran.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if they' gonna continue to rely on UNRWA for their welfare, stipends, education, jobs instead of trying to stop being perpetual victims and do something with their lives, they' gonna stay pissed for a foreseeable future.

    But I believe, for Palestinians, the train has left the station indeed.
     
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    Peace in the Middle East? By letting the Russians set up shop in Syria? No. North Korea continues building nukes. NATO countries agreed to spend more after being pressured by Obama.
     
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    Some Palestinians are moving ahead, but their governing authorities are not.

    The question is what Israel is going to do with the Palestinians.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for the healthy laugh before I turn in! :roflol:
     
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    What Marroco did with west sahara
     
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    Well maybe. If the US carries on doing what Trump was doing then we see the end of International law. We find ourselves back in the position we were prior to WW2 where Might is Right and we have no conscience in fighting wars, engaging in terrorist killings and basically acting illegally just because we want to. We killed tens of millions then, would likely be the end of the world this time - and that through the effect of wars on the climate never mind getting trigger happy with nukes.

    The Palestinians have released records of Israel stolen land and property. If the world instead continues by the rule of law, Israel and Morocco will need to make amends.

    Palestinians can now see their stolen property in the database we've made public | Middle East Eye
     
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    Not a Trump supporter, but do we owe the opening of Arab nations to Israel
    as a Trump initiative?
     
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    "Might is right." Isn't that the Chinese Communist Party mantra? The US never declared the Pacific
    Ocean as its own - it believed in the rights of the seas, and international norms.
    Not so the great bullying Panda.
    So.. would your critical faculties ever think about China, or Russia? If not then you are guilty of
    selective morality - which is no morality at all.
     
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    Rule 5
     
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    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

    You should wake up before you turn in.
     
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    Er, whom did the US kill 10s of millions of? The status quo achieved nothing in the Middle East in 70 years, this has, the Palestinians missed the boat once more and only have themselves to blame. Kissinger said there was never a people so adept at slitting their own throats.
     
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    And that is the true shame, even Fatah is a hugely corrupt dictatorship, until that changes the Israelis will always have the high moral ground.
     
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    Set up a protectorate? Yes. Israel will, I believe, create a largely self-governing protectorate in the West Bank and Gaza. Borders will be set and Palestinians will given generous assistance.
     
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    You believe the United States is the only country in the world? World war 1 and 2 killed at least tens of millions of people. The UN was created to create a place where we could come together and hopefully get less keen on killing milliions and the US was at the forefront of that especially in stopping Colonialism.

    While the US did not stick to that by any means, it did at least not overtly piss on it until Trump became President. The near future will either see us moving back to the rule of law or something quite concerning. The ME countries for instance making the 'normalisation' with Israel public are interesting. Why have they not made it public before? We know Morocco has been basically in close relationship with Israel for decades. The same is true of KSA though that may be going through a blip with Netanyhu, making pubic meetings which were supposed to be secret. Why have their rulers who are dictators and more than anything interested in making the most money not made it clear before? Easy. Because they know their people will not accept it. This has been made very clear from Morocco. I was reading that only around 20% of the people accept Israel. They no doubt are the Moroccan/Israelis.

    You want to live in a world without law. You do not surprise me. Especially when we are in a situation as we are now with the climate, such a attitude if put into reality would likely be the end for us. That probably is the war we are fighting at the moment as yet not mentioned. That war is also between the Hedge Funders and the anti Hedge Funder Capitalist. Lovely being pawns, don't you think.
     
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    It is sad for Palestinians who could have had much more than even they would settle for in 2020.

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    “The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” Abba Eban, on the Geneva Peace Conference in 1973. As true today nearly a half century later.
     
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    The US did not start WW2, it ended it and saved Western democracy. The US was no worse than any of the other colonial powers and a darn sight better than everyone but Britain. Trump was just a fan of realpolitik.
     
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    Whos gonna wake me up... sleepy Joe?
     

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