The Post says: Give it up, Mr. President — for your sake and the nation’s

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Post has been loyal to Trump, but even they have had enough of the nonsense.

    The Post says: Give it up, Mr. President — for your sake and the nation’s
    https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/

    On Jan. 5, two runoff races in Georgia will determine which party will control the Senate — whether Joe Biden will have a rubber stamp or a much-needed check on his agenda.

    Unfortunately, you’re obsessed with the next day, Jan. 6, when Congress will, in a pro forma action, certify the Electoral College vote. You have tweeted that, as long as Republicans have “courage,” they can overturn the results and give you four more years in office.

    In other words, you’re cheering for an undemocratic coup.

    You had every right to investigate the election. But let’s be clear: Those efforts have found nothing. To take just two examples: Your campaign paid $3 million for a recount in two Wisconsin counties, and you lost by 87 more votes. Georgia did two recounts of the state, each time affirming Biden’s win. These ballots were counted by hand, which alone debunks the claims of a Venezuelan vote-manipulating Kraken conspiracy.

    Sidney Powell is a crazy person. Michael Flynn suggesting martial law is tantamount to treason. It is shameful.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    If there's cash to be made he won't stop.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can write a book and rake in millions from his loyalists who are sure to buy it.

    Enough with the craziness.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But then why were there more ballots cast in Pennsylvania than voters who voted? I mean how can there be more votes than voters? Also why were the judges afraid to try the cases in court when there are hundreds of signed affidavits? I don't get it? :confuse:

    http://twitter.com/russdiamond/status/1343622485946880007/photo/1
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The answer is simple: There weren't' more ballots than voters. That was fake news aka a lie from the Trump campaign.

    Second answer: The Trump campaign didn't submit hundreds affidavits, because they were fake and they knew it. I listened to the judge who had 5
    affidavits in his hand and he asked what happened to the rest (there were supposed to be hundreds), and they said "they were no good" (aka forgeries). Then he asked if the oned in his hand were good, and they said "we don't know". That was the end of that court challenge.
     
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    How is it an undemocratic coup when it's written into our system as an option.

    And Trump never declared martial law and you apparently have no problem with 64 times other presidents have actually done it.

    I think MSNBC has bots trolling forums now.

    Staff may want to look into that.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to accuse me of trolling, you'll have to take it up with the mods.

    The Post has been fiercely supportive of Trump, but it seems the tide has turned. That is the topic of this thread.
     
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    But, but, but Hillary advised Biden to never concede. Isn't that what Trump's doing now to the max? When the ballot stuffing is over there's always the courts.
     
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    I find that highly offensive and completely unrealistic. He'll never write a book. Pay someone else to write one and slap his name on it? Sure. Claiming credit for the work of others is basically his entire MO.
     
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    Isn't that what they all do?
     
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    You guys promoted Trump as somehow being different. But, no, some of the others do at least some work of their own. Not sure I can say the same for Trump. He's mostly a figurehead.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, there are courts (including SC), lies, conspiracy theories, forged affidavits, fake testimonies, whining, crying, blame shifting, firing people, talk about martial law and all the other fun stuff we see on daily bases. This is the grand finale of his reality show.
     
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    If he wrote a book who would read it? His fans will pack an arena not wearing masks, but read a book? I think not. My experience with right-wingers is that they don't tend to read books. The dark web sure but a book? No way.
     
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    Here is a valid warning from Craig Roberts and Solzhenitsyn:

    Our Country Has Been Stolen and Republicans Did Not Prevent the Theft

    Other than President Trump, no one cares enough about America to protect it. So why are we spending $1,000 billion annually to defend ourselves from alleged foreign threats when there is no defense against our country’s theft by the ruling Establishment and woke Democrat identity politics ideologues? Why vote Republican when the party does not defend us?

    The journalist Katerina Blinova writing in Sputnik International captured the meaning of the stolen presidential election. Democrats are turning America into a “one-party system” -->
    https://sputniknews.com/us/20201122...us-political-landscape-into-one-party-system/

    If the Democrats succeed in stealing the Georgia senatorial seats as well, which is likely given the absence of protection against electoral fraud, they will rapidly move to consolidate one-party dictatorship.

    Here is the agenda:

    Illegals will be amnestied and given the vote. As there seem to be about 22 million of them, this alone suffices to guarantee Democrat rule.

    As a backup felons will be allowed to vote, adding more millions to the Democrats’ base.

    Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico will be made states, adding 4 more senators to the Democrats.

    An anti-white-male political coalition consisting of radical feminists, LGBTQ, radicalized people of color, and white liberals will be used to suppress opposition to “reparations” made in many forms to the voting coalition that the Democrats have formed.

    To insure the success of violence as an intimidating tactic against white people, the Second Amendment will be nullified and weapons will be confiscated.

    These actions successfully repress the white majority that an open borders policy will soon turn into a minority.

    As Jim Quinn puts it, the only choice white people have is to heel or to fight—https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/jim-quinn/time0-to-heel-or-fight/ . I would say the choice is flight or fight. Where to go? Hungary, other Eastern European countries, and Russia had enough of unaccountable government in the 20th century and are also hostile to Identity Politics. There is still a morality based in Christianity present in those countries. Costa Rica is a frequently mentioned place for refuge, but vindictive Democrat ideologues could force the small country to make the Amerian expatriates suffer in some ways. Whether these countries would accept the number of Americans seeking escape from tyranny and abuse is unlikely.

    Marxists wanted to erase capitalism. The new violent ideology wants to erase whiteness. But are the multi-billionaires, the CIA, FBI, global corporate CEOs, organized lobby groups, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and World Economic Forum that comprise the American Establishment going to succumb to the ideological regime or are they going to use it for their own agendas.

    I suspect the latter, but sometimes managed revolutions get out of hand. It is even possible that white people will wake up, screw up their courage, and accept the instruction from Solzhenitsyn:

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


    https://www.silverdoctors.com/headl...en-and-republicans-did-not-prevent-the-theft/
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    That sounds like you Americans will be getting the same treatment as Germany!
    If you go down the drain, Germany wouldn't have to listen to you anymore! BUT... who will be the new master who calls the shots?
    Any guesses?
     
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    If they were lies, then why didn't the judges try the cases in court so they can be decided legally, rather than denying them a fair trial? What are they afraid of?

    How can the affidavits be judged to be fake unless they were brought up in court, but the judges refused to do that. Why? What or who are they afraid of? Also, did you watch the testimonies when they were brought up in front of the State legislatures? I don't think so, but I did.

    Also why did the governors and Judges choose the electors rather than the legislature as specified in the Constitution? Was it because the State legislature would have questioned the outcome of the election, and the Democrats couldn't risk it because of the rampant fraud?

    Another question! It's obvious you read the MSM or you wouldn't be assuming that Biden won when there is no logic to it. Hasn't the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC been caught in one lie after another? So how can you believe them? We had four years of the lies of Russiagate, yet Hunter Biden's criminality was hidden until after the election - and by association his father as well.

    Can you imagine what the MSM would have done if it was one of Donald Trump's children? The Trump's lost money to serve their country, while the Biden's used their country to serve themselves. Big difference! Now how many millions did the Biden's gain from China and the Ukrainian oligarchs?

    Anyway the American people know who they voted for, and they know the election was stolen. If we can't depend on the politicians and the courts to protect our rights, then the American people have to start demanding it in the streets. For the sake of our country and Constitution, Pres. Trump will not and cannot let us down.
     
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    Hit the streets and start demanding your rights Jeanette ... it's cold out there though so wear your fur lined tinfoil hat ...
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Craig Roberts is one of the most brilliant men in the country, He has written countless books and was one of President Reagans economic advisors. He helped him give us and the world over 20 years of prosperity. As an insider Roberts knew what Washington was up to, and began to reveal the lies and hypocrisy so they started a defamation campaign against him. It's how they work.

    The same propaganda methods used now for Soros' One World Government, were used by the Bolsheviks to overthrow Tsarist Russia.


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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There will be enough Trump supporters in Washington on the sixth, I don't need to be there. The Democrats are now threatening the hotels. But then again, that's their methods. I'm sure Antifa and BLM will pop us so they can stab a few people, but you don't have to worry, the MSM will cover it up for them.




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    and doist endlessly.
    So all the folks that you dost see
    will thinkest foolishly.

    That what you say is but the truth,
    and not a falsity.
    So thus like fools, they'll always do,
    what favors you and me
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were not afraid. There was no evidence and no case, so they were thrown out. The courts exist for a reason, and political reality show is not the reason.

    Trump campaign judged them to be fake, and decided to not submit them, because it would have meant trouble for them.

    Feel free to believe anything you want, but you are only embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so when the lawyers say they have thousands of affidavits they're lying?

    How about a tribute for our judges and courts for bringing it to our attention:


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    I'm sure you sports, heard of our courts
    and how we play the Washington game
    of putting all the unfound blame
    on those who we consider lame.

    For having dared to take the chance,
    of not agreeing with our stance
    and making us a mockery
    by showing our hypocrisy
    - Jeannette

     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Giuliani and others who waved thick stacks of papers saying they were affidavits were lying.

    They lied to YOU, and to the American public, but not to the courts because they knew the forgeries could not be submitted to court, so they did not submit them. They lied to you. They played you. The fact that they did not submit the 'affidavits' should have rung some alarms in your head, but it didn't because you WANT to believe the lies.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Politifact is part of the Poynter Institute, and I always look to see who funds a source, so I'll know where they're coming from. To me they all look like a bunch of liberal One World ideologues. Putting propagandists in charge of fact checking, would be like putting the patients in charge of the asylum.

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    For me it is hard to figure out who is lying and who isn't.
    For instance this article, which I take more as an amusement right now, but who knows what is in store for all of us?

    The year is 2021 – America Is Now Communist

    The year is 2021, and the once great world power the United States of America is no more. In place of it is the new Socialist Republic of North America (SRNA), with the figurehead leader Joe Biden filling the ceremonial post of ‘President’. The true power is held by the People’s Republic of China, and their chosen representative in the SRNA, Democrat Communist Party Chairman Barack Hussein Obama.
    ....
    Read on here:

    https://americaoutloud.com/the-year-is-2021-america-is-now-communist/
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    This is, of course, grossly overcooked and served too hot to eat right now. But... being of age and having read about how things went in Germany after the loss of WWI, I don't doubt it one iota that the waiting vultures are ready to pounce and tear the carcass apart, whether it be Russia, Germany or now the USA.
     
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    The Post says: Give it up, Mr. President — for your sake and the nation’s

    I choose to believe the nation is strong enough that it will shrug this off in a few weeks. As to his own sake I can only suggest that it is his own choice. I don't understand news media want to become presidential advisors. They should concentrate on the news.
     
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