US bombers fly over the Gulf amid tensions with Iran

Iran has also yet to respond to the killing of that nuclear scientist - and there is little doubt that Iran will retaliate at some point.

Perhaps there are a few more fireworks left in the Trump Administration !? It would be quite provocative for Iran to choose this timing for it's retaliation .. right during the transition.

Is Iran going to poke the bear ?

 

They'd be awfully silly to do anything.
They may be religious nuts, but they ain't stupid as to try to take action directly against the USA military.
My guess, they'll wait after the transition of power and then negociate something via the UN once Trump is gone.

 

I am sure Israel has been provoking Iran as well. Trump has been trying to get her to do something which would allow him to do something really nasty which Iran would have to respond to and then leave that to Biden. I seem to remember Trump did ask if he could bomb Iran but was told No which resulted in some of your defence people being sacked. Iran seems not to react to things in a knee jerk way. I suspect they will just try and hold on till Biden gets in. Iran will though respond and respond strongly if a situation arises which she feels demands this. Then the US really will know what war is. That is why your defence said no to Trump's desire.

 

Those morons have FINALLY figured out that attacking Americans and/or American interests under ANY administration buys retaliation. They'll play the ever gullible EU and UN cards instead.

 

No, Iran would find out what war really is, and the US could bring them to their knees without putting a single boot on their soil.

 

Interesting perspective - and Israel has definitely been stirring the pot - almost trying to egg Iran on .. if you ask me - taking out the nuke scientist was a step too far .. had no real strategic value - it was just to make a political statement . and I am against Nations acting this way .. as are the UN Conventions that we all signed up for.

I believe strongly that Iran will respond. - the timing of that response will be very interesting - one way or the other.

What I have no doubt about - is that there is a chess game going on here .. and one side "US/Israel" - are making Bold provocative moves.

 

There is no doubt that the US could nuke Iran into Oblivion - but do not think this is a realistic option.

 

Listen sweetheart. We have had this conversation again and again. I accept that the US is to you capable of anything. That did not prove so in Vietnamn. Iran is not an Iraq. There are loads of threads on it on this forum. Iran may not have an enormous amount on the level of attack but she does have unusual ways of going about that. She is very strong on defence and once you go in which you would need to do, she will most certainly have the upper hand. Not impossible the US would win in the end but the US would not see the end as the war would go on so long Climate change will have destroyed the planet by then.

 

Trump once asked if he could do it.

 

That would not be the first of Trump's idiocies - not sure this factors in much here though .. as Trump ability to do such a thing is considerably diminished - and it was not a whole lot to begin with .. or or at least I hope not.

If we were to do such a thing it would have to be a major nuke attack. If we dropped just one - Israel would be wiped off the map.

at some point - someone would have brought this to Donald's attention. - something you think he would have learned from the North Korea affair.

This in any case - does not factor much into my calculation - and view the nuclear option as extremely improbable.

The global fallout - not talking nuclear fallout - unimaginable .. and short and long term damage to the US interests. Where does one even begin ?

 

Well Israel too would like this done while Trump is President as it is unlikely that Biden will carry on this racket. He seems much more likely to start going by the Treaty the US signed with Iran and the rest. If you are meaning will Iran respond to the killing of the Scientist, I imagine she will when the time is right but this nonesense from the US with Israel trying to bait her to respond has been going on since the killing of that scientist. If Iran has not responded by now, I do not think she will - unless the US does something way ott and I have a feeling your defence will not allow that.

 

You have a strange and seemingly backwards perspective. It is the US that has finally figured out that attacking Iranian interests has consequences .. from which Donald stood down.

In any case.. Iran will retaliate - if not further retaliation for Solimani - retaliation against Israel and/or US assets for the assassination of the nuke scientist. Something they are fully justified in doing .. as this was a massive violation of the UN conventions we all signed up to .. and Nations should not act this way.

 

I think they have to respond somehow .. be it against Israel or US interests.. or against El Saud for that matter - in which we are at war by proxy ...

but - that is just my guess .. time will tell - but I am generally a pretty good guesser

 

Perhaps Trump doesn't want to leave unfinished business behind and is hoping the Iranians will lose patience and answer back. To me that seems unlikely, because all these years they have shown great restraint... they know what game USrael is playing and that they would be annihilated if they returned "the favor".
It would not surprise me, if Putin, a very disciplined man himself, has advised them to lay low.

 

I think they will respond to the killing of the scientist but they could do that after Biden comes in and it may be something that has people puzzeling and saying it is Iran but not being too sure. I am a pretty good guesser as well

Now the Saud's. The reason why KSA apparently wanted their meeting with Israel and agreement about killing the scientist kept secret was because Iran had already done two serious attacks on her. One carried out I think on their oil fields by the Houthis and another very recent. Can't remember what it was but they thought it so serious that they saw it as a warning not to be involved in something like the killing, not to be seen to be involved with the US against Iran.

The sensible thing for Iran to do at this point is to wait till Biden comes in. Unfortunately this attack has also reinforced the hardliners in Iran and last I heard about that they were giving the EU states who had signed the JCPOA some time to get things sorted out so that she could function in the world as per their part in that deal, or she was going to increase her Uranium - in the way that makes it suitable for nukes, but still I hasten to add way below the amount needed. I will need to check up on that.

 

Iran should just wait until Joe goes back to Obama's strategy of flying planes over Iran, and dropping money bombs on the #1 sponsor state of terrorism in the world.

 

Well Giftdone, it looks like you are not alone in believing this might be too provoking. The big boys have stepped in.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rrier-aircraft-carrier-tensions-b1781018.html

Trump will be having a meltdown!!

 

No need for nuke. Most of their infrastructure are along the coast and succeptible to attack with conventional weapons from miles away.

 

The Nimitz was schedule to return to the USA in december.

 

Starting a war that would take the US twenty years to extricate itself from in the last 20 days of your presidency is something only a monster like Trump is capable of doing. In saner times right now we should be speculating on Biden's court pick to replace RBG, not the prospects of the mad king starting a war.

 

You've been praying for your "Trump the Warmonger" fantasies to come true for four years now, and you're going to be sorely disappointed now that it's basically a lock that Trump is going out as The President of Peace.

Sorry.

 

Not sure that providing weapons and intelligence to the saudi to help them bomb kids in Yemen is so peaceful. Neither is abandoning the Kurds...

Cowardice is the reason he couldn't act. Beside small hands, Trump as really small testies. He bark loud, but has no bite... Like an annoying chihuahua... Most people on the right are like that.

 

Silly insults aside, you had to admit that Trump was The President of Peace that Obama certainly was not.

Was Obama's big balls and warmongering bravery a better deal than Trump's "cowardly" peace?

President Obama, who hoped to sow peace, instead led the nation in war

JAN. 13, 2017

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/

 

Oops! You mean the eagle? You had me confused for a few seconds. The bear is Russia, the dragon is China, and the leopard is Britain - or so I believe?

Anyway I don't think Iran will respond with military force, but maybe in some other way - probably towards Israel. I think they have their embassies on high alert.

Iran knows that when they do respond, or if they continue their nuclear development, then they will be attacked. Their build up is a warning as well as a defensive measure. They want Washington to know that their missiles will be able to reach us.

Normally my sympathies would be towards Iran, except for one reason and that is their quest to take Jerusalem since they consider it an insult that it is not under Islam. Well too bad, it's not under Christianity either. But then again we are a faith, and not a worldly self exalting political entity meshed together with a faith. I'm not excluding Israel in this either. But at least they were their first.

Anyway I was looking for something to post and found this video. The closeness the Greeks had to the Iranians culturally never ceases to amazed me. If you get on to 1:18, the dance tempo is definitely Greek. Even their clothes look Greek.

 

We can not get "miles away" from Iran with our carriers - You can't exactly park one in the Straights of Hormuz

Sure we could fire a few volleys in and blow some stuff up - some cruise missiles and so on. No big deal.

Iran can retaliate in many ways.