Ga election

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Georgia:


    Voting machines are "malfunctioning"


    Over 90% turnout in Democrat counties


    Election hours being extended due to "technical difficulties"


    Sound familiar?
     
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    Well, it looks like D’s are winning in GA.
    If Mitch wasn’t a fool and allowed for cannabis legislation and the stand alone $2,000 stimulus to pass, then I believe the outcome of the night could have been different.
     
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    You are all overlooking the roll Mitch played in getting the vote out. His selfish, single minded obstruction of all things good played their parts as well. I know that I for one am enormously grateful that there is now a chance for constructive, bi-partisan work to be done. With him there was absolutely zero chance. After a flurry of executive orders to undo all of T****'s I hope that tool gets put away and Congress does it's job and legislates.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Georgia has "no excuse" mail ballot applications. People there can request an absentee ballot just because "they want one". People who received ballots for the November general election also received ballots for the runoff. Democrats sank a ton of money into door knockers and community organizers who would help the otherwise "ignorant" voter sign up and get a mail ballot.

    I do hear what you're saying about millions of people not having the slightest interest in civics and politics. My city claims that something like 97% of Austin, TX eligible voters are registered. Personally, I believe they are covering for a high number of illegal migrants who vote in our "sanctuary city". I think that is total BS, so I do get where you're coming from.

    Anyway, I still believe that 75% turnout for this particular runoff election is legitimate.
     
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    Democrats winning = Stock Market tumbling! Here we go into the abyss and Americans have nobody to blame but themselves!!!

    Thank you President Donald Trump for a great 4 years!!
     
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    I was just saying to @GlobalCitizen that 75% turnout seems reasonable. 90% turnout seems literally unbelievable.

    Also familiar....

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    Maybe, if Trump hadn't told his voters that you cannot trust any elections, particularly in Georgia, the GOP turnout would have been better, too? You lie in the bed that you have made.
     
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    Quote: Trump was pushing to get more money.....

    A huge mistake!

    .......We had a bipartisan stimulus package, supported and proudly advertized by both Perdue and Loeffler.

    ........Trump labelled Georgia's Runoff as the MOST IMPORTANT election in U.S. history.

    The MOST IMPORTANT means;

    a. Don't drive a wedge among Republicans.

    b. Don't give your opponents/Ossoff and Warnock political ammo.

    c. Don't put Perdue and Loeffler in tight spot.
     
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    Weed legislation will be an interesting one.

    The cleaner the bill is, the more likely I'd be happy to see it, just don't pork it up please.
     
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    One week before Senate runoffs....

    Trump: Send me $2000 and I'll sign it.
    Pelosi: Oh all right. Now that you lost, I'll increase from $600 to $2000. Here's the House approval.
    Mitch: Um no. The people don't need money.


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    Live on CNN during the count:

    32,400 votes taken from David Perdue live. 774,723 - 742,323 = 32,400
     
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    That’s the setup. Same shenanigans during the previous count are happening again including having to get the courts involved to allow observers.
     
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    Despite my language, I don't know for sure there was fraud. But my eyebrows have started to raise. And I guess my anger/cynicism is stoked because I'm not seeing enough of my fellow citizens saying...hmmmm.

    Yes I'm aware that the absentee changes have changed the way you get your voters to turn out. I'm also aware that shortly after major election changes, there is a danger of our elections temporarily not reflecting the will of the people, but the will of those most ready to take advantage of the changes.
     
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    Final message big lie from Joe Biden to the people of Georgia, "Republicans will block the $2000 stimulus."

    Key tactical DNC message: Vote for us and we'll pay you. Republicans will let you starve to death through no fault of your own.

    I'm sure Biden's message played non-stop in Georgia local news and print media.

     
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    Certainly wouldn't have hurt... Mitch should have allowed for a lot of things that would have passed over the last 4 years...I know Jon and the Rev want to believe otherwise, but I'd like to believe while Nov was a referendum on Trump, last night was a referendum on McConnell..

    That case can certainly be made...
     
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    OK, you have a point but I don't believe in single-issue voting. It's always more complex than that.
     
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    How is that different from "Biden will defund the police" which played in ads in my state over and over although Biden did not have that intention? And what about Trump trying to sign the checks that were sent to Americans earlier on? Do you actually think he didn't try to profit politically from it?

    Double standards...
     
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    I'm convinced there was fraud in the general election. Between the general and this runoff, Georgia did make some changes so that this election is running more smoothly than either the 2018 mid-term election, the 2020 primaries, or the 2020 general.

    Still.....we are now getting reports of anomalies even on this contest. So. ??????
     
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    LOL... Where on earth do you get your news? How is that a lie?... Google 'socialism for rich people'

    A Republican DID block the 2K stimulus and would have done so again... You might soon know him as the former Senate Majority leader

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/29/cov...e-considers-vote-on-2000-stimulus-checks.html
     
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    I didn't claim that the $2000 was a factor to all voters.

    The DNC tactic of "Vote for us and get $2000. Vote for them and don't," was the tipping point however in contests which are currently separated 10,000 - 50,000 votes. Mitch McConnell handed the Democrats that talking point on a silver platter.
     
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    I think the problem is that both sides have cheated and tricked since inception, but now the country is becoming very evenly divided. The more even the split, the better likelihood that fraud and ethically questionable behavior, even if small in proportion, becomes the deciding factor.
     
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    To your Whataboutism tangent, I'll just say that anyone who follows politics is well aware that politicians exaggerate or outright lie to the public to win what is most comparable to a high-school a popularity contest. That isn't a partisan thing. Usually the politician with the best lie wins. Fear and anger is more effective than hope and love. The final DNC push was "Fear of poverty and starvation." LOL That was effective.

    Politics is 99% divisive propaganda. It is what it is. I find political marketing strategies and tactics rather fascinating. :)
     
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    Yes. 101% agree.
     
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    True. But also, I just learned that turnout was most suppressed in counties where Trump had previously won. So, Trump tweeting that these runoffs were illegal and rigged, discouraged people from participating. While he did campaign for the two Republicans, he did it in an ambivalent manner and also undermined Republican voter confidence. He also motivated the Democratic voters; many voters were outraged at his berating of the 11/3 elections in Georgia as illegal, as in, "Oh, you think my vote doesn't count and was fraudulent? Watch me vote for Ossoff and Warnock."
     
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    Well, sure, if you do see both sides at fault (like I said over and over, for example, in my criticism of BOTH Trump's and Cuomo's response to the pandemic), good for you, but then why is your political posting here generally so one-sided? Care to actually do what you are preaching, now? I'd love to see you adopting this non-partisan stance you are recommending...
     
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