So now what? Here is what I think should happen now!

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  1. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    President Trump should immediately be removed from office by way of either the 25th amendment to the constitution or impeachment and then arrested and charged with inciting to riot and sedition. Each member of the house and the senate who has been beating the drum and otherwise fanning the flames re:election fraud and protesting the electoral college votes on the floor of their respective house should be immediately ejected and forever barred from re-entry.
     
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    I predict that over time it will be revealed that Trump or people directed by Trump were pivotal in lack of security, lack of response, and apparent friendly capitulation by some police toward rioters on the scene.

    The lack of security and response simply make no sense and Trump holding a rally 1 hour before the start of the certification is no coincidence.

    Yikes...i am starting to sound like a Trump supporter. Disclaimer: This is simply my opinion and not based on scrutinized data.
     
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    I suspect trump had something to do with the lack of security and also playing into the whole fiasco was that a sizeable number of the Capitol police are probably trumpers.
     
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    I second this.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's out on Jan 20 no matter what. Trump haters need to dial it back a little. I know you want punish him and all his family and the people who worked for him but you need to wait 'til the Harris/Biden administration and AG Merrick Garland takes over.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    They can try to remove him from office via impeach/25th but, just to clear, that is a political strategy designed to ensure he cant run again in 2024 (something the DNC is quite afraid of) and nothing more. However that's where the reality ends and the rhetoric begins because any hopes to charge him with a crime, inciting to riot sedition or whatever else you want to call it, are nothing but wet dreams. He can't be charged for inciting a riot by calling on his dumbass far-right supporters to show up and protest 'steal' that didn't happen any more than any DNC politician can be for calling on their dumbass far-left supporters to show up and protest a 'police murder' that didn't happen.
     
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    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the kind words. The required action seems painfully obvious to me.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the repubs had any love of country, they would take care of trump themselves.
     
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    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    He is a domestic enemy, a clear and present danger, desperately trying to hang on to power. This has little to do with politics as we know it and everything to do with the criminal justice system. It has nothing to do with whether you love him or hate him and everything to do with doing the prudent and right thing.
     
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    Trump did no such thing lol.
     
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    we've known WH security command (WHCP?) refused any and all assistance from the onset after knowing there were problems coming 48hrs ahead and put up rows of bike racks as a defense with only the minimal deployment specifically so they knew who was inside the perimeter which also meant controlling the use of force or lack of it. there was probably major planning from WH soldiers to set this up for yet another hairbrained scheme gone wrong, this time with historic and yet unknown ramifications.
    after the first year they all should have been escorted out and behind bars for National security, but now we know all his poodles and they also need to be immediately incarcerated until we gain a hold of this insidious mess which reaches into every Gmt. Dept./agency/Bureau.
     
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    Bringing the country together, such a unifying force.
     
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    Ok dial it back a bit because nothing criminal transpired on the part of the President. He didn't tell people to break in nor did he tell people to commit assaults. He told them to show up and protest. VP Harris did an interview days after one of the larger riot/arson/looting sprees we saw this year praising what had happened warning people it wouldn't stop and then saying it should (full quote at the end). Should she be charged? Should any of the countless politicians and/or pundits that have supported, encouraged, and/or covered for BLM/ANTIFA terrorists be charged?

    If you bend the legal requirements for a charge like sedition or incitement of riot just because you want to see Trump punished then have to accept that many many MANY others will face similar fates. Do you really want to go down that route? Because do you know what comes next? They start going after people for just agreeing with those who they charge. You might become a co-conspirator just for having an opinion. Don't think it can/will happen? Friend, it's already coming. May I present: The Patriot Act 2.0:



    "That's right. But they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop, and this is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not." -Kamala Harris June 2020.​
     
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    Much like the answer to the question "What do you call a jet full of lawyers crashing into the Atlantic?"

    A good start.
     
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    Pretty sure those nukes won't respect that 1/20 deadline, as it were.

    Punishments will come. But, for now, the guy in the White House has clearly demonstrated he is a danger, clear and present danger, not just to this country but to the world.

    I'd rather NOT stumble into a nuclear war.
     
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    Has Trump shown any indication of firing off a few nukes tonight? What kind of drugs makes you people go there?
     
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    Their hate has no bounds.
     
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    dgrichards Well-Known Member

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    Protest is one thing, and however you want to treat that is fine. Crashing into our capitol building to stop a joint session of congress from formally validating the election and with the intent to do grievous bodily harm and actually did do that harm resulting in the deaths of 4 people and vandalizing the halls of congress and offices therein is an entirely different thing. These were not protesters. This was a mob, an insurrectionist and seditious mob intent on unlawfully disrupting of and otherwise stopping our government from carrying out duties mandated in our founding document, our Constitution of these United States of America. No rabble, no group of people organized or not can be allowed to do this without facing most severe consequences. Any individual who through action or inaction, official or otherwise, aided and/or allowed any part of this to occur should be held to account. This was no small thing, and to equate this action in any way with protest, legitimate or not, is tantamount to an act of treason.
     
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    It is very possible that the Capital police are infected by malignant Trumpism.
     
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    I didn't think he would try to get a Republican Governor to cheat on his election either, but he proved me wrong.
    Fool me once.........
     
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    No, the bloke has immense power NOW, and that power must be taken away from him NOW as he has abused it yet again.
     
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    You understand why those charges would fail, right?
     
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    And our laws come with criteria that has to be met in order for the part in bold to be applicable when it comes to charging someone with a crime. Because everything you said before the bold part is true and a lot of the people who were involved are already facing charges (not to mention being fired from their jobs). But, I'm sorry, nothing Pres Trump tweeted or said truly satisfies the conditions to have him brought up as an unlawful instigator of what happened.

    But I do allow for the possibility that the Biden Justice Dept will do it anyways if there is a political need to continue having Trump as the focus of all things even throughout the early days of the Biden Presidency. For example if the Dems wont put the $2000 checks front and center, or if there are cabinet confirmation problems (someone gets accused of a sex crime), or maybe even if Pres Biden has a bad day on his inauguration and slurs a ton of words and has to be yanked from the virtual ceremony - who knows! If they hit rough seas in the first 100 days you can bet the media will be 24/7 Trump once again.
     
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    and all non establishment/globalist citizens should be banned from social media. Then we'll put all opposition members in gulags after we confiscate their right to bare arms. It's been the plan all along!! That's how the Marxist Revolution is supposed to work.
     
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    It is very possible the Capitol Police were defunded as desired by the left. They can't have it both ways. Should have had more "social workers" at the scene.
     
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