Trump's Twitter account suspended permanently

LOL! OK, you do that.

 

Un-American
The Fake Patriotism of Donald J. Trump

https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538129258/Un-American-The-Fake-Patriotism-of-Donald-J.-Trump

 

Override the Presidents ability to communicate???
Really? The poor little dear.

 

Not a problem. Can you see how this was a planned insurrection? All of the attendees surely weren't in on it, but it was Trump's responsibility to keep track of this, and to vet and reject any violent people from attending his rally. And the rally itself was aimed at overturning a free and fair election based on a lie. Denying this was an act of sedition, orchestrated by Trump, does not stand up to scrutiny.

 

Trump is not a conservative so not really a risk.

Has any other Republican politician had a Twitter account suspended?

 

They took over the seat of our government, ransacked the capitol building, a scared place to real Americans and you want to compare that to a starbucks and a target store?
The protests this summer were many and in several cases got out of hand, ONLY when the police tried to stop them. That is when they turned ugly I know you don't like that but it's true.
The hyperbole from the radical right over last summers protest is staggering, each time they are mentioned they get worse and worse, which is what you all have to do to maintain your 'whataoubtism'.
ut even you know there is no comparison to attempting to over throw the Govt in the name of one man*, no comparison at all.
I know you rightists will keep trying, you have to, you are party loyalists and members of the church of trump, but at least try and tell the truth about the protests last summer and stop with the hyperbole.

 

I think you forgot to say 'amen' after your prayer to trump.

 

No I'm not pretending he's chained to a furnace with duct tape on his mouth. Just saying that the President is deplatformed from all social media in 2021, and that "it's just the internet" is a yesteryear conception. The internet has become a staple in daily life and I just don't like the way it is had both ways; on one hand, we are all on the internet more and more, and on the other, it is becoming less and less open and free to the point that POTUS can be silenced at the same time news media will simply not cover his public messaging. That's a game-ender in many ways.

Nah it's too far as I see it. I watched live, and he amped up the crowd to go rally at the Capitol but then he used the word "fight" at one point... No way I call that an insurrection, just stupid, reckless rhetoric I expect from him. I also don't expect his office to vet every person who traveled to DC for that event. I don't even want people to be subject to vetting to attend political public gatherings.

As for "denying a free and fair election", I have two opinions: Republicans didn't make any rock-solid arguments and Democrats didn't waste a minute entertaining the ones they did make. I expect more unrest because of this denial of closure.

 

In some posts, I read a disturbing psychological connection between "winning" and well-being. It is pitiful, and I do pity anyone so afflicted.

I've gotten visibly angry when the White Sox, Bears and Bulls have been victimized by umpires and refs, or made bone-headed plays on the field. They've each brought me great pride and joy as well. Sports. That's what they're for.

I've never felt any emotion toward a politician or official. My well-being has never suffered. Indeed, my current employment has spanned three presidents now, to be four in 11 days. I'm lucky to be employed by a business that isn't much affected by swings in the economy; I realize many aren't as lucky, but my life has never seen much change driven by who won the White House. My well-being has always prospered or suffered as a result of my choices and circumstances, not those of the president.

This isn't to minimize the office of POTUS to being meaningless; it is the most powerful position in the world. What I'm pointing out is winning an election and winning in one's life are two, likely unrelated things. This "attitude" is available to everyone. I find being emotionally attached to anyone outside those you love as a serious mental health issue. But I'm just an ignorant old coot. Doesn't matter. We old coots know strange when we see it.

 

Thats the worst photoshop job I've ever seen! Buildings do not burn like that!
My god a 4th grader do that?

 

Surely I don’t have to explain that no one is obligated to give him a platform.

 

Parsing Trump's words immediately before the riot is only one step. This itself fails, but there is much more to be examined. QAnon was there. That's an organized group. If the guy with the horns wore a hood instead, should he have been let in? If, after an hour stoking the flames, rather than say "Let's march to the Capitol," Trump remained silent, and only pointed to a black church across the street. The crowd then marched across the street, and while a good portion of the crowd stood around looking like the tourists they are, the ones in hoods ransacked the church and erected nooses and set crosses on fire.

Not Trump's fault? "But he didn't say burn crosses!" Your argument, yes? A company and CEO are responsible for the actions of their employees, and Trump is responsible for his goons.

Closure? <COMMENTS EDITED>

 

I have plenty experience securing federal property and no, nobody should have been let inside. I'd love to read their after-action report too, just to see why the building was unsecured to a mob. And no, you have not summarized my argument nor are you even trying.

 

No they aren't, but I want to know what the Pres. has to say and news media has a way of getting in the way of this, hence the reason why Trump utilized social media to begin. That's my argument plain and simple. I wouldn't push to ban Trump's opponents off the internet, just so you know.

 

Let inside the rally. Known insurrectionists were allowed into the rally. They were told to fight. Over a lie. This was planned, Trump knew all about it, and he incited it.

You haven't presented a countering argument yet, so maybe that's the difficulty I'm having summarizing it.

Saying you need closure for something that has been dead for two months isn't an argument. It's denial. Saying Trump isn't responsible for the people he invites to a rally is also not an argument. Just more denial. So, what is your argument outside of parsing one word from his speech?

 

Well I'll post back a bit later this morning

 

fair enough

watch this please

 

What the president has to say is dangerous, as we all saw this week.

 

As I stated, we have a bet your paranoia is wrong.

 

I’m gonna go with, Nothing.

 

One in the same, boogaloo idiot drove up from, you guessed it Texas to set fire to police station.
Those are photo shopped pics of another building, most likely not even on fire. The real photos were posted.

 

You take away their protection from being sued over any stupid comment you might make on their platforms that offends some moron from East Jabib, and they’ll just take away—from all of us—the privilege to make comments on their platforms.

 

Dude I'm not giving any cover to rioters or domestic terrorists. I'll never endorse the mob that tries to break into our government's buildings or lynch our politicians, and I haven't changed on that point. I watched them act like a violent mob and they should be treated like a violent mob, period. Been saying this already. However, the notion that Trump incited anything outside of a rally at the Capitol is something you have to tease out of Trump's words. I'm not seeing a planned and failed coup.

I see the same partisan and ideological out-group intolerance and anxieties that overcame the Democrats since 2016 now being expressed by the Republicans in 2020 because their team lost an election, and because their voters think it was unfair. This is not a Trump phenomenon and it has been a common sentiment on the losing side for years. Fear and anger, when instilled in a citizenry, lead to unconventional forms of political engagement (ie riots and protests). Americans have been inundated with fear and anger no matter who they vote for or how they identify, and it breaks the country. The losers will always be more intolerant and will always be quicker to reach conclusions about perceived in-group threats.

I am flying like a rocket over this aspect of public opinion but to put a point on it, I'll just say that we have not convinced the Republican skeptic that his party wasn't cheated. You can call them delusional, call them liars, or say that the election controversy "is so yesterday", but you're no more in-the-know than they are; you just consume different news media.

 

Laughable man. Political rhetoric has always been bombastic and horrible, and I don't even agree that Trump said anything unique in this regard. The most egregious thing he said during that speech had nothing to do with the election, even.