'if they were black'

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    RE: The woman that was shot and killed.

    This woman was warned not to come any further towards the hole in the door of the House floor. She was WARNED.

    I'm seeing numerous complaints about this. It shouldn't have happened; over reactive, blah blah bah

    Guess who is saying this. The people who say, repeatedly, that black people wouldn't get shot by the police if they do what the police ask.

    Dunno, just a guess, maybe black people have a point?
     
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    100's and 100's of predominantly white people were asked not to barge into the Capitol. Only one got shot.
    They shot a white person who would applaud when cops would shoot a black unarmed person in every instance with petty excuses.
    Let's not kid ourselves who is who here.
     
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    Idon't get the point. The woman in question would not have gotten shot if she had done as the police asked.
     
  4. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wrote, " It's impossible to comprehend the level of hatred some people, solely for the color of their skin, experience on a regular basis."
    I read this as saying 'colored' people face incomprehensible hate.
    But 'colored' people can hate as much as white people. Skin color doesn't determine your character. Saying that it does can label YOU as a
    racist.
     
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    The woman shot was political, disobeying instructions. Many blacks (and at a much lower ratio
    than whites) get shot being criminal, and disobeying instructions.
     
  6. MJ Davies

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    I purposefully did NOT include a specific race in my statement. Hatred works in both directions.
     
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    I hope so. But when you said 'solely for the color of their skin' this strongly implies the people
    in question are 'colored.'
    The most brutal people I can think of in history would include the Zulus, the Mongols and the
    Aztecs, BTW.
     
  8. The Rhetoric of Life

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    So then, you're saying it's not a history of being trodden on or a biased law enforcement, but that it's genetic?
    If it's not socially economically rooted in the history of African Americans, then, is it genetics?
    Are you then suggesting that African Americans are prone violent crimes because of genetics and not social or economic factors?

    Isn't that racist?

    I don't agree with you, I think White America needs a reality check.
     
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    Though technically not a color, white IS used as a color to describe people who don't tan.

    There absolutely hatred of white people.

    Both sides have very valid points. It would go a long way if they started trying to understand what each other is saying.

    We need to move on from this, already.

    I truly believed that Obama was going to aid this. I was quickly (very,) removed of this delusion.

    Trump wasn't a good follow up to that.

    Biden may do nothing more than calm tensions. We shall see; I desperately need something to feel optimistic about, regarding this issue that has plagued our entire history.
     
  10. MJ Davies

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    I'm only responsible for what I write. You are responsible for how you read/interpret it.

    I never once said that racism (or any other discrimination) flows in one direction.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This "if you aren't on my side on this one issue, you are my enemy in every other way," mentality has to stop!

    I obviously do not mean you, MJ. We centrists are really starting to take a beating from Trump's cult.
     
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    Yes.

    It's rather exhausting sometimes. ;-0
     
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    I didn't say racial hatred is self inflicted. I said crime is self inflicted. If one's group commits more crime, that group will get more police attention. If one's group continues to fight with police and resist arrest that group will face the consequences of doing that. Everything isn't racism.
     
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    Life is full of choices. The decisions you make may result in you winding up in jail for whatever reason OR you can stop listening to those who continually tell you you are oppressed and make the conscious decision to capitalize on your blackness and wind up living a really good life. It's your call.
     
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    And the choice to feel afraid around Black people or not.
    The choice to see colour rather than what someone is doing.
    Maybe choose to see Black people like White people, or not, it's your choice.

    White America has a choice too, the choice whether or not to feel safe around Black people.
    Black people standing on a corner, outside your home, does not mean they're being dangerous and you should feel fear.
    Black people dressed up like "Thugz" riding around in a nice car, doesn't mean that car is stolen or they're carrying drugs.

    So White America, what choices do you make when you see Black people?
     
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  17. MJ Davies

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    Again, if you feel that way, you don't agree with the image you responded to. Not EVERY black person is a criminal, yet, it is assumed to be true. I often read comments that "they don't obey the police". How is it possible to think 100% of people arrested and/or killed by cops is non-compliant? That makes no sense.

    Regardless, there is no point in going around and around about it. I now know where you stand on the issue of systemic racism and I respectfully disagree.
     
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    As I've corrected, no you are not correct. Although I can't speak for all your posts, in this thread, in your replies to me, you've been wrong about pretty much everything.

    Please continue to voice your support of rioting.
     
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    I'm confused by what you are saying. Are you saying she was asking for it and it was, in police parlance, a "good shoot?"

    Or...are you saying she was murdered by cop?
     
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    I didn't say anything like that. Feel free to comment on what I actually wrote. You said 100%, not I.
     
  21. MJ Davies

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    I've already commented on what you wrote. I think you're wrong or are willfully ignorant about what is really happening to certain groups of people.
     
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    You do understand that if Target, Department stores and all the liquor stores broken and looted this summer, followed the policy at the Capitol building.....there would be a minimum of 1 dead in each instance. Skin color makes no difference to me, but you know as well as I do by film I have seen by those break ins, a large portion would have black skin pigmentation. That is all the left and fence sitters like yourself would have needed to play "identity politics". So a white women get's shot......and you remain silent.
    No "social justice" needed here! Blatant hypocrisy. I believe all break ins should be treated equally. We have a second amendment you know.
     
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    I said:
    In making excuses for the actions of colored people in the US, you do as much to keep them down as the slaveholder and the Klansman.
    Nothing in your response negates this.
    You need a reality check.
     
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    That woman was a terrorist just like the 100's of others who barged in the Capitol to attack democracy itself.
    And nope. Black people get shot at by the cops on a FAR higher rate according to the % of the population.
    Killer cops are punching above the weight to hunt down and kill black people, and ignore the violent white.

    You can see a violent predominantly white group of terrorists ignoring police orders, and attempting to crush them to death... yet the cops do not shoot.
    That is TYPICAL how police simply will just not shoot as often at white people.
    https://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-crushed-door-trump-191032769.html


    Everybody knows these people would have been shot when black.
     
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