Our Current State of the Union

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given your Marxist bent, do you applaud the leftist intent in America of silencing the opposition via Social Media?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the record, being a child of the cold war, I hate commies with a passion.

    Well, you know how America passed the Patriot Act right after 9/11 that sacrificed all kinds of civil liberties and rights in response?

    Well now that same knee jerk immediate reaction an be seen, only this time its Corporate America responding before the government. Responding to an attempted coup by the sitting president, one that he planned, coordinated and executed and failed thru social media. He promoted violence. He promoted hate. He promoted anger. He promoted pure unadulterated BULLSHIT.

    Its not infringement of free speech, its private corporations excercising their own terms of use. You know like any freedom/liberty loving free american company should, no matter how uneven or irregular or belatedly they do it.

    Good riddence
     
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    I sometimes wonder if those that scream freedom of speach actually comprehend what that means and what RESPONSIBILITY it carries. Hate speach, prejudicial speach is NOT responsible speach.

    It is a bloody good thing they have finally banned him from twitter and other social media. He is guilty of irresponsible speach........speach that incited violence and supported it. He is a menace and a danger...who will probably keep his cult following and continue to divide the country. The sooner he is gone the better........ and with consequences o for his conduct.
     
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    And how long would the peoples of these 'nations' have to share a country before they become a nation?
    If your answer is never then how did the Cherokee or the Zulu get to be a nation.
     
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    I assume that would include violent suppression by the state as well?
     
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    I agree, free speech has never existed unfettered. Just so long as authority controls the right to other human emotions (such as violent reaction) it must also control what we say. Most of us do not suffer any effect from this control because as humans we recognise the effects of what we say and use self control. But occasionally you get someone who seems unaware of those effects or doesn't care and so you need rules.
     
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    The political system is corrupt. There is nothing citizens can do to address the corruption politically. I stopped voting years ago for this very reason. It's nice to think that voting can fix things but, sadly, it cannot.
     
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    Yet despite all the corruption you are still a thousand times better off in America than Somalia or even China. When you complain about what you have lost its quite a good idea to look at what you still have.
    Then maybe you could consider how much more you might have to lose.
     
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    No argument there. If I hated America I would leave it. i'm still here. My problem is with the government, not the land or the people or the society.

    Somebody asked whether California was a good place on the forum some time ago. My answer was that California is a great place with a poor government.
     
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    Well yes, but this is with the government you say is full of corruption. How come?
     
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    This is how grown-ups handle situations ... it will be good to get back to that after Trump

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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reminds one of Michael Jackson, holding hands and singing "WE Are The World"! Then returning to his lair where he molested children. No one denies you have a collective of Socialists. The anti-Semitic all Sharpton and others.
     
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    Come anytime and welcome! The loonies get ALL the press 'cause that's all the press is about, sensationalize EVERYTHING for precious ratings. As for the hyperbole found on these forums, it's our bread and butter, allows us to vent our political frustrations then go back to daily normal affairs of living.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously you would point to the fact your President was 50% black giving no credit to the fact he is 50% white. Identity politics is a losing game. Canice Owens for President 2024!!
     
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    A Republic, if you can keep it.....

    That wasn't "progressive" enough for the authoritarian illiberal left.

    Say hello to four years of the "new and improved" U.S.S.A.

    Unity through silencing of dissent.

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    This was an epic post of geopolitical history and the nature of conflict that it indeed felt like a lecture though you said you didn't want to. You ever thought of pursuing the teaching profession? I know it's hard on the Internet but there's no sarcasm in my words, I thoroughly enjoyed your post and knowledge.
     
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    Our problem is that of partisan communicable disease. All sided believe their choice is there for them and in reality, no politician is there for anyone but themselves.. We have given the keys to the bank to thieves and conmen and we are all so blind to their blatant display of thievery we actually hold the door open for them while they loot the coffers :)
     
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    Correct, they now have us outgunned, outmanned, in conflict with one another and all the money..

    We be screwed!!
     
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    So you don't believe in american democracy. Color me surprised.
     
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    That it? 500 miles of wall but no reduction in legal workers coming from Mexico and driving down wages. And a cop out of doing something about global warming because China isn't.
    I have to ask is that how you judge America "We wont coz China wont?"

    Oh and you got an anti abortionist judge. 4 years for this.
    2nd question. Is that what you expected?
     
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    Why does it remind you of Michael Jackson?
     
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    Been to America once, loved the people we met. Kindest and politest people I have ever met.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    where the wall has been built illegal entry down 100%.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because he was a "popular kid" with the left.
     
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    I repeat my question. Is that all you wanted to make them walk round the end?
    I have to say you are fairly easily satisfied, can I assume all the talk of communists and left wing whatever's and corporates running the country was just flannel.
     
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