Disturbing developments all over the place / in 11 days, Biden/Harris will be inaugurated

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Interestingly enough, this thread is making righties wild, but center on the domestic terrorists, TRUMP-terrorists who staged a failed insurrection on Wednesday, by which people died, and suddenly the right is like

     
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    Oh, looky, looky, LSG thinks she can rewrite the law and somehow, it must be so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Summary of Democrat leaders' current view on constitutional law:

    “My guiding principle is this: Guilt is never to be doubted." - Franz Kafka

    Not the way to heal a nation.
     
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    But like the political left, they mischaracterized his words so as to condemn him. Therefore they are the political left. But for the veil of secrecy and denial, the leftist king is naked.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do understand that you do not appreciate opinions with which you disagree.
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    He said what he said, not what they said he said. But if you wish to buy into their insanity, chow down.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One wonders what this push for impeachment is about when the current President's term is about to expire. (As of now it's 11 days away)

    Is it an attempt to somehow try to further legitimize the results of the election?

    Or thwart the possibility of a future second term that could happen after the Biden Presidency?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Ministry of Truth (corporate media) have paved the way for the Biden Era to be a dystopian, real-life version of Orwell's 1984.

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are compelled to complete the coup of a sitting President with one big crowning finale. It is, in part, to prevent a run in 2024, except that the Senate won't convict so an impeachment won't prevent that. It is also a warning to any other future outsider candidate that The Ruling Elite will not allow the people to elect anyone other than a pre-approved "R" and "D" uni-party establishment option.

    They don't mind if another impeachment this late in the game further weakens the seriousness of impeachment, but also destroys the 1st Amendment.

    Some snippets follow from an article by Jonathan Turley regarding how this push for a second impeachment is very dangerous to our country and its constitution....

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/533469-swift-second-impeachment-would-damage-the-constitution

    Democrats are seeking to remove Trump on the basis of his remarks to supporters before the rioting at the Capitol. Like others, I condemned those remarks as he gave them, calling them reckless and wrong. I also opposed the challenges to electoral votes in Congress. But his address does not meet the definition for incitement under the criminal code. It would be viewed as protected speech by the Supreme Court.

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    Despite broad and justified condemnation of his words, Trump never actually called for violence or riots. But he urged his supporters to march on the Capitol to raise their opposition to the certification of electoral votes and to back the recent challenges made by a few members of Congress. Trump told the crowd “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices be heard.

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    So Congress is now seeking an impeachment for remarks covered by the First Amendment. It would create precedent for the impeachment of any president blamed for violent acts of others after using reckless language.

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    Democrats are now arguing something even more extreme as the basis for impeachment. Under their theory, any president could be removed for rhetoric that is seen to have the “natural tendency” to encourage others to act in a riotous fashion. Even a call for supporters to protest peacefully could not be a defense. Such a standard would allow for a type of vicarious impeachment that attributes conduct of third parties to any president for the purposes of removal.

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    The damage caused by the rioters this week was enormous, however, it will pale in comparison to the damage from a new precedent of a snap impeachment for speech protected under the First Amendment. It is the very threat that the framers sought to avoid in crafting the impeachment standard.

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    In this new system, guilt is not doubted and innocence is not deliberated. This would do to the Constitution what the violent rioters did to the Capitol and leave it in tatters.

     
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    Bunker Boy had it coming.
    He miss used and abused Twitter constantly, with his rude name calling, lies, falsehood and CTs.
    They allowed it because he was/is President.
    He is still President, but not anymore relevant.
    Time to shut this criminal and his deplorable clan and Nazi inner circle up
    Well done Twitter, Fotzenbook, you tube, google, but it should have been done a long time ago.
     
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    Adolf was the first who understood the power of mass media. The Twitter of his time was the radio and he used it masterful to spout his hate and lies. If they had taken the air waves away from him....................................
     
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    You are of course in no position to declare what Democrats believe or what their principles are. But you go right ahead and put on that tinfoil hat and who knows, maybe our alien overlords may find you worthy. Who knows.
     
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    Indeed, he said what he said. And this is more than bad enough. But hey, you just keep on defending the indefensible while people have died, including one cop who war murdered.

    Law and Order Republicans, my ass. Probably would suit them more if the catch-phrase were in cyrillic.
     
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    We had 'free speech' before twitter and Facebook, and we have free speech now that they exist, regardless of their policies or their practices. Trump can learn to write a weekly column and syndicate it.
     
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    Do you think silence is the only attack one can make? When the POTUS spends a chunk of his time attacking American corporations, he is aiming for their bottom line - their overall success. But I guess you don't think that's a problem. It isn't a problem for Trump to attack Nordstrom's because he didn't like the way they treated his daughter. Get out of the tunnel!
     
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    Why, without those fat little tweety fingers, life simply ends!!

    Oh, the horror of having to actually put pen to paper!!! Dammit, that costs at least 1 or 2 calories! Oh, the horror of having to actually sit in front of a TV and say something live and uncensored! Gee, if only the President of the United States of America had the wherewithall to do this....
     
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    Okey dokey then.
     
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    Democrat leaders' actions speak their principles.

    They may rip the final threads of the nation apart next week with a purely political "quickie" impeachment. There is no integrity in that. If Biden had any leadership qualities at all, he would make a public statement against the actions of Pelosi and her quest to firmly establish the Democrats as a political organization most similar to the Third Reich.
     
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    Trump violated the TOS repeatedly, he has no one to blame but himself
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    For those who made need an solid mooring to the cold, hard facts about attacks on US Installations, in the aftermath of BENGHAAAAAAAAZI, there was a sum total of 10 major investigations, which actually meant 14 hearings/major reports.

    2012 Benghazi attack - Wikipedia

    Soooo, 2021 MAGA-Nazigazi is surely going to be investigated very, very thoroughly. Since the US-Congress is most definitely a US Installation, meaning a group of buildings or a complex with the purpose of carrying out US policy and since more deaths just happened on January 6th, 2021 than during Benghaaaaaaaaazi in September of 2012, surely there are going to be a lot of investigations.
     
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    Impeachment is absolutely necessary. He committed high crimes against the USA. End of story.
    And as for the feelings among his supporters, here, let me show you what he supporters thought of other people 4 years ago:

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    Yes, those are actual people who expressed these sentiments.

    Of course, I do not share these sentiments. I'm more civilized than that.

    So, no, impeachment will not tear the country apart. Cry your crocodile tears elsewhere.

    Maybe you could cry a tear for the DC cop who was murdered by a MAGA-nazi on January 6th, 2021 who bashed his head in with a fire-extinguisher. Maybe you could show some humanity about this. But I do realize, that may be asking too much of people who do nothing but troll but are suddenly all umbraged up now that our dear leader can't exercise his fat little tweety-fingers.

    Be better.
     
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    ~ Are you kidding ?! How do you think people decide what party best represents their own interests/concerns . .? Both parties declare the principles and agenda that they represent. No tinfoil hat required .

    ~ How do you know this ? Was the person identified and arrested ?
     
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    Write a weekly column. LOL This isn't the 1950's or even the 1990's. Twitter can ban Trump, but he has multiple avenues to reach many millions of people whenever he wants.

    The broader issue at hand isn't about Trump. It is that we have people in powerful places who are advocating the removal of free speech from political adversaries, and millions of "liberal" Americans seem to be applauding the action because they are blinded by the blood lust which Dems and corporate media have created and propagandized over the last several years.

    It appears not many are giving much thought or reason to the precedent this is setting or to the possible long-term implications.

    The ACLU, while also being a Trump-hating organization, at least attempted to persuade some folks that censoring people because they are not liked may not be the brightest decision in the long run.

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    What did Biden promise to do to the fossil fuels industry again?
     

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