Our Current State of the Union

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Antifa and BLM will be their tools.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We saw far more of that violence this summer from the left and it was ignored. Kamala Harris even helped bail them out. I stand for equal treatment under the law. I don't condone any violence except for the right to maintain and protect property. I agree, these two instances of violence are the result of ignorance but we aren't seeing them treated equally.
     
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    Back onto safe ground few. Blame BLM and Antifa, they're worse than we are.

    Makes such a convincing argument, so much better than explaining what we're about.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So how do you feel about Kamala referring to the rioters and protesters as "they need to do what they have to do". Do you think that helped pile on to all those buildings burnt and people killed? Or is it just a "partisan principle" you hold.
     
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    Yep its them not us. Our rioting isn't really rioting. The 5 people we killed aren't really dead, and if they are they didn't mind.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a foreigner you have no idea what American businesses went through in direct contact with these groups. For months we saw them at liberty to break in buildings, burn and loot. Democrats in general, turned the other way and in the instance of Kamala Harris, actually raised money to bail them out. I don't excuse the breaking in of the Capitol building. (Though I have seen on video at one location, Police let them in peacefully. You can view the video) Have you ever heard of the concept "equal treatment under the law"?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will help you here. When they walk around the end...they are concentrated and that is where the Border Security waits. Did that make it easier for you?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...this summer where far more were killed, our News Media and Democrats called it peaceful protests. Even while buildings were burning in the background. Glad to make it easy for you.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The best thing you could do Tigger2, is stop the back and forth now, but go back....read the OP, then formulate a discussion on all the disparities spelled out there. That would be better in keeping within the discussion of this thread. None of the negativity here has even done any of that!
     
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    Yep. Look over there, its them not us. Look at them not us, its them I tell you. What we did doesn't need addressing.
     
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    The OP was full of nonsense, communists, lefties, gender etc. None of these are really issues. I have no back and forth I am addressing what you are saying or more to the point avoiding.
     
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    Responsible speach applies to everyone. Words matter. and we as humans should self edit ourselves . I am sensing a lot of frustration "in your tone" Seems this is a factor with a lot of people now. It is understandable. I guess the question is : how to channel it into constructive action.

    Each destructive event needs to be assessed and evaluated don its own characteristics , motives etc. I do think one of the biggest problems today is the information overload........ much of which is just nonsense.( personally, I stay away from all social media ) We have to do our own fact checking these days.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Have you ever heard of the concept "equal treatment under the law"?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I couldn't agree more. My frustration as most all frustration has to do with communication., a whole lot that is deceitful. There is deceit on both sides, granted, but the Mainstream media does not do their job. If they did, the current President Elect would have been vetted. He was not. He was sheltered ad protected.
     
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    Unfortunately, it is only a concept & and an ideal.. Reality is a far different story.. This past summer exemplifies that.
    It will be a reality when ALL LIVES MATTER.
     
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    When Biden does his State of the Union, it will be important
     
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    Yes I have.
    And still you are avoiding addressing those you support, frankly I'm less interested in what their or your bunch of hooligans have done.
    I'm much more interested in your tacit support of their actions and why.
    The OP talks of lefties allowing people to self gender define and a couple of other insignificant things that do not effect your life in any way beyond being annoying for you.
    This cannot be the reason for storming congress can it?
     
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    BLMAW

    black lives matter as well.
     
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    I don't believe in government corruption. Making up things I said doesn't move me at all.
     
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    Not if you ignore it. We have had periods without gridlock in the past and have survived them all. We will survive this one also.
     
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    I don't understand the question but I'll guess. California is a beautiful place. It is full of great people, great businesses and great ideas. It has incompetent government in the larger cities and in Sacramento. If the government were competent the state wouldn't be on the verge of bankruptcy and government wouldn't do the stupid things it does. I would provide for more personal freedom and less authoritarianism.
     
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    So you don't believe in any democratically elected Amrican government, but you believe in the democratic process, unless of course your leader tells you otherwise. I'd say even if you did want to move, it wouldn't be quickly.
     
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    A week from Tuesday could be doomsday if Trumps right wing terror group gets involved. Lord knows what's in store for that day. We should all dread what will happen that day. Should we fear that day?
     
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    You kind of got my point. California is a wonderful place to live despite the tawdry corrupt government you imagine you have. It is certainly not on the verge of bankruptcy.
    Tawdry corrupt governments produce countries like Somalia or the Congo.

    That doesn't mean you are wrong to criticise your government, but there is a world of difference between criticism and insurrection.
    The sad thing about democratic governments in stable economic countries is that once the system is working there is very little major change that can be made without making things worse.

    I am waiting to here what exactly Trump supporters want. You get generalisations such as 'make America great again' or 'Stop corruption' and moans about lefties wanting people to self define their gender. But never the giant thing that was supposed to happen when we drained the swamp.
    What specific things are important to YOU.
     
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    Is this one of those "Practice what you preach" moments ;)
     

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