How is the mob that took over the Capitol different from rioters during BLM protests?

Where have you been through most of 2020?

"Chicago Democrats Peacefully Loot & Burn Down City for BLM"

 

When will Trumpers learn that repeating debunked QAnon conspiracy theories does not make them look good?

 

Where were you when we debunked all your QAnon Media conspiracy theories on this forum?

 

I stopped watching "the News" on CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc years ago but a dear, old friend from NYC who happens to be a Democrat was visiting this week who does like to watch the news so I watched it with him.

In addition to noting the same hypocrisy you observed, I was struck by the degree to which CNN has simply become a shameless mouthpiece of the Democrats.
For hour after painful hour I watched and listened to one Democrat pundit after another who had been conspicuously mute during the BLM riots suddenly expressed their selective outrage at the lawless violence in our nation's capital.
I kept waiting for some mention of Portland, Chicago or someplace that Democrat supported BLMers had destroyed but didn't hear even a whisper of condemnation of the burning, looting and beating of people that took place during most of 2020 at the hands of of the BLM crowd.

My Democratic friend has now left and we are still very close friends but the hypocritical double standard exhibited by the Democrats continues as they call for justice/revenge for the pro Trump crowd who invaded the capital building. This newly discovered concept of enforcing the law has just now been adopted by our selectively outraged Democratic leaders as they call for the arrest and prosecution of the pro Trump trespassers. Meanwhile, these same new found law and order proponents were deaf, dumb and blind while BLM burned and plundered much of America.

While I don't consider myself either a Democrat or a Republican, events of the last 12 months have shown me that America has far more to fear from a Democratic leadership than of one comprised by Republicans.

 

When have I ever expressed any QAnon Media conspiracy theories?

 

I quoted it. Even left bold large font you used.

 

Can't hardly believe my eyes. Are you denying the BLM mantra????

 

CNN interviewed one of the leaders of either BLM or Antifa (can't recall which) who had stormed into the capitol. Asked him what he saw and heard, etc. Never though to ask what he was doing there.

Pelosi's reaction to the capitol riot is compared to the federal agents called in to protect the Portland federal courthouse from being destroyed by BLM and Antifa. She called the federal agents storm troopers trampling on the 1st amendment rights of peaceful protestors.

Everything you say is true and perfectly obvious to even a casual observer. Yet somehow the Democrats, with a forced straight face, deny the clear character of all the left wing rioting supported by Democrat politico leaders over the summer. Harris led an effort to provide bail money for arrested rioters. Nadler denied it was even happening.

 

The election laws were not respected in some states and i think it is disingenuous to demand that Trump respect the electoral process but ask him to ignore acts by politicians which violated the constitutional process which dictate the election process. Democrat operatives violated the consititution and changed rules and laws that were seen as largely beneficial for Biden.

Steve Scalise summarizes the violation of constitution in key states, below is a short video. Everyone, including you should be concerned with this and demand we address it.


There is nothing more important than preserving election process integrity and to set the precedent that governors and secretary of states can just change the laws/rules last minute, in violation of the constitutional process, clearly to benefit one candidate, should concern you greatly. Trump and many republicans simply want this audited, investigated further. Trump wanted to pursue all legal options to ensure election was fair and there is election process integrity in the future.

This i largely agree with. Trump should not have thrown Pence under the bus and misled people thinking Pence had the authority to stop the certification. Unfortunately, here Trump was wrong. I stand with him on how some states violated the constitutional process and share his anger that the courts largely decided to punt (although there were judges who dissented) but Trump was wrong to take it this far and put Pence in this position. I have to admit this.

This is when we have to think clearly. Even though Trump riled up his supporters, he never asked them to storm the capitol and commit violence, this narrative is false and dangerous. Riling up supporters is something politicians do all the time and the media does it all the time... It is a completely different thing than deliberately orchestrating a coup or ordering violent acts and you know this. I share your view that it was wrong for Trump to put Pence in this position and that riling up his supporters at this time was unwise but i have to say that you take it too far when you make it seem as if Trump orchestrated this violence.

Had states not violated constitutional process in ways that benefited Biden (coincidently) , probably nothing of this would've happened. When you tinker with election process integrity, you are playing with fire, especially with a combative person like Trump.

You have to understand that 74 million Americans are angry that constitutional process was not followed in some states, this is not an allegation, it is fact. They feel election wasn't fair and this is true, based on violations that benefited Biden. Whether there was fraud enough to overturn election, maybe not but there is real anger in how some states circumvented long lasting constitutional processes. Trump, justifiably, is angry and stands with his supporters. I don't disagree with you that his messaging was flawed but i bet that if the constitutional process had been followed in key states none of this unrest would've occurred, unlikely. It would've been increasingly difficult for Trump to sell the people on fraud and get congress members on his side in the absence of these violations.

 

So you did believe the QAnon conspiracy theory.... Huh! Imagine that!

Just for reference.... BLM has said no such thing. QAnon faked a video for you. This has been explained by multiple fact-checkers.

 

Not according to every court who has ruled on this matter, including the states and US supreme court. Note that it is not the president's role to formally determine what is and is not constitutional, it is the courts.. and the courts have spoken.

 

The marching of BLM and chanting their mantras is as clear and obvious as the sunrise. (and much just before Obama invited them to come visit him in the oval orifice.) But be my guest and deny away.

 

Could the fact there were riots in more than one city have contributed to more arrests for Antifa/BLM:

 

they are both bad, but one was trying to help Trump steal the election, both that committed these crimes should be in jail

Trump should be impeached for his roll in it

Trump participated in this event by calling Congress during the attack, not to see if they were ok, but to ask them to overturn the election

 

Charles Manson had that same argument, it failed

 

quote of him saying that before the event, not after it happened, and he was forced too and reluctantly complied

 

It's obvious to those who believe QAnon and don't know that it's a doctored tape.

But you now know.

 

You seem to have been hanging out with Nadler too much. That would be Riots?-What-Riots Nadler.

 

Thank you for also noting the egregious double standard exhibited by both the selectively outraged MSM and Democrats who are currently exploiting Wednesday's capital invasion to the hilt.

I don't know how anyone can view the tepid reaction of the Democrats to beatings, burning and destruction of 2020 and not notice their sudden change in tone toward a strident law-and-order stance. They were perfectly content to condone violence when it was directed at everyday Americans but when their offices were soiled they call for immediate and harsh repression.

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I think we all know that any BLM or Antifa participators in Wednesday's events were there to make the destruction as extensive as possible.

 

You're getting me mixed up with someone else. I have never written anything about QAnon and only noted that you are apparently oblivious to the burning, looting and beatings that took place during 2020 with the support and approval of the Democratic leadership.

 

I didn't say you wrote about QAnon.

So many people echo QAnon talking points without knowing their origin.

 

.... and to direct blame at Trump

 

One set of rioters supported Democrats; the other did not. It is as simple as that.

 

How is it that all the rioters we have learned about (name, past extremist activities, etc...) are all QAnon and/or Trump supporters? Can you show a reference to any of them who support Democrats? I'm not saying there weren't. There might have been anti-protesters there. But I haven't seen any evidence of them. Certainly none acting violently. Why is that? Deep state or something...?

 

All??? Surely you jest. Or did you actually miss the videos, pictures, arrests, interviews, stowed riot gear in vehicles, social media coordination, and FBI tips of radical left wingers like BLM and Antifa?