"Fake News" vs "Truth"

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep...that's exactly what we need...more competition to create even more fantasy.
    If you want your business to thrive....give the customers what they want.
    Consumers don't want "facts"....they thrive on fiction. They want to be entertained...not depressed.
    Why else do you think FOX is so popular? Tucker...Hannity...Limbaugh...they're legends.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we're keeping score?? Like your "first person *****" video games...right.
    Then perhaps we'd better wait til your pal tRump is finished...his game is not over yet....
    ...but of course then your argument would be that "your side is justified".
    Then we're right back to the "Alternate Facts" scenario.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Not keeping score. It's about the fact that these dumbasses are going to get the book thrown at then while thus far BLM (aka Burn, Loot, Murder) have thus far gotten away with murder, literally.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought you were "Back The Badge"..."The Party of Law and Order" with the "The Law and Order President"...
    or does that only apply when you get your way?
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    What the hell are talking about? Did you miss the first post where I said both groups ought to be in jail for their crimes?
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps there are a few that might disagree with that idea....
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I had quoted you, modernpaladin, before reading nobodyspecific's excellent response, covering similar ground as I had in mind. I will add that you seem to like your alternative facts, including this very popular buzz-phrase, I have noticed, currently on the right: TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY, what is otherwise known as DEMOCRACY, though your way of saying it makes it sound like something far worse. The will of the MAJORITY, in an ELECTION, for all its imperfections, is not, "mob rule;" as @ChiCowboy also pointed out in his very good post, it's really all ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE have to go on, for any decision, including, "what should we have for dinner?" or, "what does everybody want to watch (on tv or in the movies)?"

    Secondly, you seem to be using an alternative definition for, "elite," which indicates one of an exceptional class, i.e., a minority of people. A majority, by definition, cannot constitute an, "elite class," though, once again, calling a majority choice which you disagree with elitist authoritarianism, does seem a much better way to incite outrage over it.

    In any form of government, the BALANCING of individual rights with the will of the group is, and has been, in American history, a primary focus. It is not a matter of one or the other, as you seem to suggest. The distinction between your & nobodyspecific's descriptions of democracy's intended role is linguistically subtle, but are worlds apart, in their truth: democracy does not just protect rights, which we would normally be free to exercise, without it, it LEGALLY establishes those rights for, without some government, we are left with anarchy in which no rights, "inalienable," or not, are guaranteed.

    Your only other option is to declare someplace your own, individual kingdom, & then defend that claim against any individuals or nations that would have otherwise. In preparation, might I suggest, first, adjusting your title, to, "modernpalatine?"
     
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    Trump as dictator was horseshit when it was first spewed 4 years ago, horseshit for the next four years, and still horseshit today.

    Emergent LW Authoritarianism and Big Corporate Brother is very real, though, as recent events prove irrefutably. Did you realize whose boots you were licking all this time in gulping the orangemanbad narrative? No need to answer, truth will be sinking in very early on in the Biden Administration if it hasn't already.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Attempting to change the outcome of an election seems somewhat like the behavior of a dictator.....
    But tRump did nothing to stop "Big Corporate Brother"...if anything he hogged the spotlight so "BCB" could carry on without scrutiny.
     
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    That is becoming increasingly likely to happen. Though you could've just shortenned it to 'secede.'
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No....but in the post below you seem to be criticizing the decisions made by the "Law".
    In fact you've, essentially appointed yourself judge and jury and convicted BLM of murder.

    What happened to "We are The Law and Order Party" ?
    Do you only "Back The Badge" when it suits you?
     
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    "You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how."

    Boris Bazhanov
     
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    Lol...yes quite true indeed....I think that is what tRump had in mind when he said...
    ""No, no you don't. ... Not even close. You're off by hundreds of thousands of votes."
     
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    We got dead bodies I like at least an arrest and trial. All they did was take the bodies to the morgue. Including a couple of black kids that ran into one of chop's blockades in Seattle. The left. Us screaming bloody murder over a handful of ninnies that will as I said get the book thrown at them and should but BLM doesn't even see people get arrested for assassinating on the street in broad. But you arrest people defending themselves from BLM's murderous impulses.
     
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    I am not a fan of the "We Back The Badge" and the "We Are The Law and Order Party" club....maybe you should withdraw your membership....
    cause from what you are posting here...you don't agree with them either.
     
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    Nonsense. We aren't getting law and order almost entirely in blue cities.
     
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    Can you observe that making such statements above.....implies that you only "Back The Badge"
    when their judgements conform to your preferences?
    Can you understand that the "The Party of Law and Order" is likewise, simply an illusion?
     
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    Absolutely spot on. It explains the proliferation of right wing radio. People don't want to listen to sober discussions about policy. They want to hear about Dems eating babies.
     
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    They aren't being allowed to enforce the law in those cities. It isn't there decision as attested to by the fact that cops are living the forces in those cities in droves.
     
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    I can only reply from my own experience with cops in my family...
    for law and order to function the way it is intended....literally "droves" of them will have to leave the force...
    they never should have been there in the first place.
     
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    Loving your clear eyed analysis. I would argue the evidence discussed in the article below can also be applied to police depts. around the country.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/11/military-right-wing-extremism-457861

    Police departments across the U.S. open probes into whether their own members took part in the Capitol riot
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/01/09/investigating-police-rioters/
     
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    Yeah that's working so well that crime rates in those cities have doubled and trebled. Hell they've got 2 year olds being shot in there strollers.
     
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    ...if only the same trend could continue with all government entities...
     
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    I'm guessing you blame democrats for that....correct?
     

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