Rep. Tammy Duckworth wants military insurgents to be punished.

Yes most likely so.

 

while they are in prison I think it can be removed, if they get disability, that too could be removed, the thinking being that if one can do a terrorist act, they are not disabled

 

No disagree but respectfully I disagree. There are different tyles of disabilities. A double amputee ( both legs) for example does not prevent someone from walking and does not prevent someone from committing a crime. Being incarcerated does not suspend ones disability. A disability as a result of military duty does not go away while in prison federal or civilian. If a military retiree commits treason while he is a civilian should not change his compensation legally but I would personally like to cancel it. But my personal opinion should not enter into a legal decision.

 

Me and other retired US Military.. I am a very proud retired US Air Force Vietnam veteran.

 

I understand Duckworth's position but is it reasonable to discontinue benefits because someone is a veteran? If so, it should be across the board and anybody on any kind of governmental assistance should lose their benefits as well.

What happens to these people when their source of income is cut off? More crime? More suicides?

I'm not suggesting the rioters should not be punished for their crimes. I'm just not sure that's taking away their income is the right and reasonable solution.

 

I am also a retired USAF Vietnam veteran. If you do not mind what year were you there? I was there in 1969, Central Highlands, small little know base south of DaNang north of NaTrang. Welcome home brother!

 

Different rules, though.

Civilians don't take an oath to protect the constitution.

 

I was at Binh Thuy AB in the Delta in 1966 and 1967. I have a Vietnam Service Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters which takes a bit of explaining. I was TDY to Thailand in 1961 and in 1962 which counted as two tours in the Vietnam theater. My assignment to Vietnam overlapped two campaigns. Thus two more tours to the Vietnam theater. That medal plus my bronze star really dazzled the SAC crews back in the states.

I stopped in DaNang in the early sixties. it was not much more than a tent and a runway.

Welcome home. It is a very different world, or at least it was until a year or two ago. We did not dare wear our uniform on a civilian aircraft when we came home. I was in the Colorado Springs airline a few years ago when some troops in uniform returned from the Middle East. They were given a very warm welcome home by virtually everyone. It made me really proud to see their reception.

 

It is a political persecution, if you are taking these actions because of their political views. It is not political persecution if you take these actions because they committed a crime. We can all be expected to know when our passions might lead us to commit crimes of looting, vandalism, theft, assault, attempted kidnapping or murder. NOthing about politically motivated passion that works on the human brain any differently than other forms of passion. That is true in any protest.

 

I was at Phu Cat just south of DaNang. I was TAC stateside worked C130's, F-100's, F4C's , and the honor of working C-7A twin engine Caribous for a Spec Ops detachment that used their Caribous to support the Greenie Beanies and ARVN rangers. I very much respected them even respected those ARVN.
My tour was cut short because I lost an argument with a 80mm mortar round that killed the guy 4 feet to my left. A few inches higher and I could have been a KIA but I dodged that "bullet" and so far two cancer bullets one from Agent Orange.

I always got treated well and with respect flying military standby. Coming home from Vietnam via Japan it was on C141 and to Walter Reed and other military hospitals so I never had the "opportunity" to deal with civilian anti war anusheads until I returned to college.

I tried putting Vietnam behind me dealing with school and spending time with my girlfriend and avoided Veterans groups until my dad dragged me ( bitching and complaining ) to a local veterans post meeting. Now I am the third oldest veteran in my post. My future father in law was a veteran and member. So yes there was a conspiracy but I got introduced to a great girl and we are still together.......with grandkids....

 

I have been fighting a losing battle with VA on Agent Orange. I was doused with it when a Ranch Hand made an emergency landing at Binh Thuy. I have developed peripheral neuropathy. I am convinced it is because of Agent Orange because no one in my family has had the problem. They require I prove scientifically that it was caused by Agent Orange. Proving "scientifically" something today is caused by something over fifty years ago is pretty much mission impossible.

Other than that I returned with all the body parts I went over there with.

 

Have you checked the diseases that the VA now agrees are caused by agent orange? I was not going to apply for agent affects for the second. A certain after being denied for the first type but I was volunteering at my local VA hospital/ Regional Center and the director of volunteer services a skinny runt threaten to kick my ass up two flights of stairs and force me to file for disbility ( will add to existing). I was granted agent orange disability 17 business later. All of my records were in their computer from the initial filing after Vietnam when I was an out patient at the same hospital.

So check again. Are you a member of the DAV, VFW, American Legion, AmVets etc. they will help you and represent you and fight the VA member or not. Go to VA.ORG and start there if you have not checked in a while. Seriously there have been updates to the Agent Orange qualifiers lately. Even Squids are getting on board due to Blue Water expansion. I am joking even the Navy guys off shore got exposed.

 

What about elected officials who flagrantly violate the Constitution?
Such as demanding a TAX on guns or a Registration (see JoeBiden.com)

Oh wait....it's OK when the agenda agrees with yours.

It's sad that we've become a nation full of highly polarized, highly political, hypocritical juggernauts.....with little knowledge of history (not the left's re-written history, I mean ACTUAL history)

 

There is a Catch 22. They say Agent Orange is the presumptive cause of peripheral neuropathy. However, they say it has to occur within one year of exposure, unless I can prove it scientifically or a doctor writes statement that it was conclusively cause by Agent Orange. I was turned down once and am in the appeal process at this time which is being delayed by Covid-19.

I tried working with our County VA representative, a retired Navy Lt Commander. Rather than helping me, he is telling me why am not eligible because of the above. Appears that he thinks he represents the VA rather than the veteran.

When I first heard that Agent Orange was causing problems in around 2000, I notified the VA. I did not have peripheral neuropathy at that time. They periodically sent me bulletins on the damage Agent Orange could do to my body. No where in one of those bulletins was there a statement that I should not be concerned because if it had not happened by now, it was not going to happen.

I am not a member of any of the organizations although I occasionally attend meetings at our local veterans hall.

Personally, at this time after five years, I am just tired of fighting them. Even though, after this time, it could amount to a hell of a lot of money, it simply is not worth the aggravation.

 

I have no idea what kind of BS you are trying to spout.

 

Anybody who was in the building as part of the riot should be prosecuted. Those who were there as part of the protest but did not participate in the incursion should not be persecuted.

 

So who should be prosecuted, then?

 

Anyone caught INSIDE the Capitol building knew they were in there ILLEGALLY, they therefore at the very least knew they were trespassing. They were there as a result of breaking and entering.

 

oh you played the disability card... nice

 

Give me/ us a break. Her disability status was evident. I do not need to play the disability card when it comes to Duckworth everyone has seen her prosthesis.

 

Yup, just like illegal aliens who sneak into the country.

 

So you must have seen and are familiar with this link.

https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/conditions/

I hear you about getting tired of fighting. I had/ two cancers one of them the VA accepts. The one that I came down with 20 years ago they do not accept. It was from cesium 137 radioactive isotope. They said pretty much the same to me as they said to you. " your records do not indicate that you complained about radiation poisoning blah blah _______. I gave up! In fact in the 1990's when the VA finally started an Agent Orange registry I ignored it and chucked out the letters the VA sent me.
I even lost contact with the USAF Retiree office because when I moved I did not change my addresses with the AF. My checks were direct deposited so if they did not bother me I did not bother them.

But bottom line you are as screwed as I am on those things.

 

I have not seen the link, but I have seen similar lists of Agent Orange related problems.

My experiences with the VA with peripheral neuropathy has been a bit strange. They say that most peripheral neuropathy caused by Agent Orange is accompanied by diabetes. Then they say, that if you have peripheral neuropathy and you have diabetes, they claim it is caused by the diabetes itself. . I don't have diabetes so they have doubts about my peripheral neuropathy being caused by Agent Orange. At the same time they say that if I had diabetes, then it is likely caused by the diabetes itself rather than Agent Orange. I have not seen this in writing, but that is my impression based on talking to the doctors who interviewed me. It appears that having diabetes disqualifies me and not having diabetes disqualifies me from getting any kind of disability.

I have a ten percent VA disability for glaucoma which was diagnosed in my separation physical. I have another ten percent disability for tinnitus associated with a short stint as a C-130 crew member and guns. There is only a slight income tax advantage because they subtract my VA disability from my retirement. If they allowed me a further thirty percent or more disability for peripheral neuropathy, it would bring the total up to fifty percent which means I would get a fifty percent disability in addition to my retired pay.

All I can say is that when it flares up, it hurts like hell and there is almost no relief.

 

I HOPE YOU SEE THIS POST,! I hope you see this. You need to explore this program . It is called CRCS COMBAT RELATED SPECIAL COMPENSATION. It is designed for those of us who Waived retirement pay in lieu of. VA COMP.
IN 2008 the Congress passed a law and what that did was to audit and recalculate the VA waiver amount and if it hits a certain formula and if the VA got overpaid the overpayment is sent to the veteran military retiree.

It is at least was retroactive back to 2008. If you qualify you will get retro lump sum and a small monthly payment for life.
IF YOU QUALIFY,
There is website to download the form or now tvcan be done electronically. The form request is sent to JOINT BASE RANDOLF in Texas. That is joint with LACKLAND remember that place?!!M!!!

You should be getting a form once a year from DFAS - Defense Finance Accounting Service US MILITARY RETIREMENT PAY
PO BOx 7130
London, KY 40742-7130
Toll free number 1-800-469-6559

See also www.dfas.mil/retired ilitary.html
CRCS is designed for those who do NKT have 20 years service but had boots on the ground in an Agent Orange area.

Go to this
https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crsc/

Then. You should be linked to USAF CRCS because each branch has to apply to the branch you retired from.

Tomorrow I will check my downstairs safe where my military records are stored I should have more websites addresses.

Seriously check this out

 

Thanks. I will check it out.