Daniel Andrews to push National Cabinet to adopt Victoria's COVID measures amid UK coronavirus strai

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  1. Melb_muser

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    Daniel Andrews says he has cut short his leave ahead of tomorrow's National Cabinet meeting, so he can push to have Victoria's strengthened coronavirus measures implemented nationwide....

    "I want the things we are doing in Melbourne and Victoria done nationally," Mr Andrews said.

    Because if it's a problem in any part of the country, it's a problem in Victoria. And if it's a problem in Victoria, it's a problem in every part of the country.

    Every person who gets it [the mutant strain] is giving it to four other people.

    If that gets in here and gets away from us, there will be no pulling that up."

    https://amp.abc.net.au/article/13039066

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    Good to see another example of premptive (real) leadership.

    Hopefully this is done sooner than later so we have no more of these preventable "leakages".

    The amount of hassle these outbreaks cause is not worth either the money saved or the political points gained from not getting this right.
     
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    Surely Australia could fund testing prior to departures from the UK or other countries where this thing is out of control!
     
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    Meanwhile in Western Australia I haven't seen a single man, woman, or child wear a mask or social distance in the past 6 months.

    Close the borders, Andrews can shove his lockdowns up his arse.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think we are going to do just that. Not sure about the funding arrangements...

    Huh? Did you read the article. You'd be lockdown too if it ever got out of hand in Perth
     
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    There is no need for lockdowns in WA, primarily because our premier is not Daniel Andrews.

    And thank God for that.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ok. Good for you.
     
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    I despise Daniel Andrews and his destructive totalitarianism, he has destroyed so many lives & caused many deaths. Wish we could get rid of him unfortunately elections are a farce so that's not going to happen

    I am interested to see how this vvv is received.
    a Globalist puppet they've put him and his incompetent backside firmly in the seat and now he's telling the other Premiers & Fed gov how it's going to be...rather amusing watching them all dance... it's all theatre...a spectacle
     
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    Interesting that similar to Steady Pie, no comment about how this could help prevent any resurgence of Covid.

    Just hate on Andrews... Whatever
     
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    What you conveniently overlook is his incompetence have caused the deaths of over 700 people due to Covid and over a thousand due to suicide. Now he wants to pretend he's the standard when it comes to handling covid. If anyone is the standard on how to deal with Covid, it would be the NSW Premier, Gladys Berejiklian... just **** and do what she tells you to do... problem solved
     
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    I suppose it is too much to hope you have a credible source for that figure. Let me guess, can't trust official statistics so you found it on FB.

    There were roughly 800 suicides in Victoria in 2019. You are insinuating more than that in the period starting in August this year. Put up or shut up time.
     
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    Daniel Andrews destroyed Victoria's economy, he is fully in line with Globalist policy of "inflating the debt away".
    They are destroying demand in order to destroy supply....which will result in supply shortages with excess demand....voila inflation....you won't know what that's like because we're talking depression era economics.

    but in doing this these people are destroying lives and livelihoods, meddling while thinking they can control the outcome... they will soon find out they can not.

    Daniel Andrews "strategy" is to obliterate the economy to try and eliminate the virus.... he failed... it keeps coming back. Come winter, we'll be back in lockdown. Berejiklian by contrast have managed to not obliterate the NSW economy while managing the virus, she is an exceptional leader....Yin and Yang between the two premiers.

    The Victorian deaths due to Covid is Andrews fault... for fcking up quarantine.... the mental health crises & suicides that resulted due to lockdowns, is Andrews fault....for fcking up quarantine.
     
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    As I suspected, no credible source for your claim of over 1000 suicides, just another fact free rant packed full of the usual conspiracy theories. Different day, same post. Its almost like you have an allergy to verifiable facts.

    As I have said before, you really should move to somewhere you like more. Clearly Victoria doesn't suit you. Property prices are doing fine, so that is no excuse.
     
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    Nice sidestep over all the dead bodies
     
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    The only one sidestepping here is you. You make claims that have no factual basis. Repeatedly. Are you honest enough to admit that you don't have a credible source for your claim on suicides, or are you just going to avoid discussing your lack of sources completely? Just admit you saw it on a Facebook meme. We all know that is what happened. The honesty would be refreshing.
     
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    Thanks, it is good for me.

    Well, just so long as Andrews stays in his lane.

    This is not Victoria. We do not have a problem precisely because we have not taken Andrews' advice thus far and have far more effective controls in place.

    You wouldn't even know COVID existed as a resident in WA unless someone told you.

    There is simply no need for masks or lockdowns in WA.
     
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    So, what are the far more effective controls?

    I'm in the ACT and I haven't had to wear a mask apart from to my mum's nursing home and to medical centres. We do social distance and testing and tracing is pretty top notch. I just want to try to understand why you think what's happened in Brisbane recently couldn't happen in Perth. Because international arrivals are our only weak spot that leads to community transmission. Without that, we'd have eradicated Covid. I don't get the same sense of rabid, frothing at the mouth hatred of Dan Andrews from you that I get from someone else in this thread, but I would think having gone through a successful lockdown, he is someone I'd be listening to when it comes to advice on how to stop outbreaks.
     
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    Could be Ronald McDonald proposing these measures, they're still unnecessary and harmful. If Victoria has a problem they should address it themselves, we do not.

    Western Australians will not stand for Eastern Staters who have ****ed their response forcing us into their way of doing things. They can kindly **** off back over the Nullarbor.
     
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    In reality most Western Australians will not have your extreme views of the east. International border policy will affect you as well because people will want to come back to Western Australia including through any of the other states. Western Australians have relatives in other parts of the country. So sticking your head in the sand is of no relevance
     
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    This is not true, you do not live here so you are not aware of the current sentiment.
     
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    What is not true? perhaps you're confusing support for the hard border with something else.


     
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    I see those suicide figures have yet to turn up. I guess its hard to find proof of something that was made up.
     
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    OK, so the Victorian Coroner's Court have released suicide figures for 2020. There were 698 suicides in Victoria in 2020. That is drop of about 20 on 2019 & 2918, and 4 higher than 2017. There is nothing good about 700 suicides, but given numbers in previous years and given some of the predictions and lies circulating relating to COVID it is good news.

    https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.a...nthly Suicide Data Report - December 2020.pdf

    Of course, that brings us back to your made up figure blaming Daniel Andrews for 1000 suicides. Even the slightest bit of research would have shown that your figure was highly questionable, but research is hard and memes are easy. Why spend 5 minutes googling when you can just treat something that tells you what you want to hear as fact. Its no wonder you've never sourced the claim.

    The only question now is whether you revert to your standard 'its all a conspiracy' or just pretend you didn't read this.
     
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    He killed the coronavirus victims with quarantine negligence... interesting how you tiptoe around those 700 odd bodies
     
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    I'm not tiptoeing around anything. I'm also not making claims that are celarly made up or avoiding discussing the made up claims.

    I'm trying to gauge the extent to which anything you claim can be taken on trust. The fact that you have refused to source your claim, and can't bring yourself to admit that you once again reproduced a piece of fantasy that you happened to agree with as fact, tells me that nothing you say can be believed without a credible source. It also say something about how you process information.

    Either you are too lazy to do basic research or you literally treat anything you want to believe as fact....or possibly both.
     
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