We disagree. You are not my enemy.

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  1. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Friends, fellow Americans, global citizens...

    It's time to take a deep breath. Most of us have 75 good years to stomp on this terra. We are given, gifted, granted, some say blessed with, a finite energy, a life force, and then it's gone. The lucky among us take our last breath surrounded by loved ones. Some of us will get hit by a bus. Some of us will die alone in our favorite chair. Some of us may even sadly end it by our own hand. Life is too short, this gift. It does have an expiration date, and unlike that mystery bag of Cheetos you found in the pantry, it's simply no good after...

    We on this forum, and out in real life, on Facebook, on Twitter, on late night TV, and Prime Time TV, and the AM radio, the papers, we have occasional disagreements. And sometimes those disagreements are pretty vast -- seemingly unsurmountable. And sometimes those disagreements turn into arguments, then shouting matches, then? Violence?

    What a sad use of our gift if disagreeing with someone means they must be your enemy too.

    You are not my enemy. You are my fellow human. Believe I want the best for you. We just might see a different path to that end. You count. You matter. I love you. Thank you for being here.
     
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    Same to you.

    You and our fellow citizens matter. Trump does not. Let's try to not have our politicians succeed in dragging us into a civil war for their own personal gain.
     
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    Good timing. Nicely said. I will work on that. Thank you.
     
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    I must disagree, those who wish to see America brought to it's knee and submit to globalism have chosen to make themselves enemies of free Americans. Their dystopian vision for the America we leave our kids is nothing short of evil. These people are not our friends.
     
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    Maybe, you should make friends with AlQaeda? They and the hard core Trump base have a common goal: Destroying the US government (err deep state).
     
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    I first found it interesting, when I came to PF, to see the variety of views on the country. Then I became frustrated with the division. Now, I just find it sad that people, fueled by political interest, can be so vile to one another. And truly see 'the other' as an enemy rather than a person with a different view. I no longer engage in political conversation with folks IRL - there is no middle ground anymore.
     
  7. Bow To The Robots

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    Could not agree more.
     
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    Thank you.
     
  9. Bow To The Robots

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    I too have made that observation. Family members no longer talking to each other... In my view, the center must hold. If we lose that, we are in big trouble. I think the proliferation of social media has made it very easy to dehumanize and eviscerate a stranger from the safety of a keyboard. No side has a monopoly on that behavior, by the way. I personally have certainly done my share, and I will do better going forward. A great philosopher once said "No try, only do."
     
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    So I'm not sure what to do with this. Can we take a step back and unpack these comments in the spirit of this thread?
     
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    So I'm not sure what to do with this. Can we take a step back and unpack these comments in the spirit of this thread?
     
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    every thread on this board becomes about trump..

    this proves he is a cult leader

    Love trump or hate trump..

    trump is not doubt a cult leader to his followers

    he is a nemesis to haters

    never in my life did I think I would witness a cult being a political party

    and never in my life did I think I would witness both political parties to be a nemesis to each other

    kinda sad
     
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    I'm not sure every thread becomes about Trump, but I have noticed that he is sometimes inserted into threads where he doesn't necessarily apply.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Oh, good grief!

    Please explain to us all exactly how America could be brought to its knees any more than it is right now.

    Please explain how we are submitting to globalism.

    Sounds like the fear-mongering, anger-inflaming right wing rhetoric that most of last week's insurrectionists believe. Are you with them? Because if so, then like the groups participating in the attack on the Capitol, you've been repeatedly lied to by expert liars for years.
     
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    Most Americans want the best for their country - though they may disagree the best way to do that. Labeling them "enemies"
    as you say, is destructive.

    There are some small groups on either side of the political spectrum that are troublesome - Antifa, Pro-ud Boys, Q idiots -
    that are dangerous. We've always had a few of these people around. It's sad. The internet hasn't helped.
     
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    Exactly right. Just because someone has a different idea on what they think is best doesn't mean they want to "destroy" the country. I can't stand when I hear that from either side. I remember the Left saying Bush was going to destroy the country. Then the Right said it about Obama. Then the Left said it about Trump and here we are with the Right saying it again in regards to Biden. So far...everyone's been wrong. Have there been hiccups? Have there been trying times? YUP. But the US has not been destroyed.
     
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    Haters gotta hate
     
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    The interweb (as my grown son refers to it) has put hatred and fear on steroids.
     
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    But it seems like the extremists set the agenda these days. That's the heart of the problem in my view.
     
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    Agreed. Very easy to dehumanize a stranger when you don't have to look them in the eye.
     
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    You're right, most of us are centrist on most issues. Not only extremists, but emotionally driven views on wedge issues are a problem. Some people's votes, election after election, are based entirely upon a single issue about which they have deep feelings; nothing else matters.
     
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    I think the point of the op is to remember that most of the folks supporting this think we'll be better for it. You can fight evil with anger, but anger only makes the ignorant more resolute in their ignorance, and makes the naive only believe you are the evil.
     
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    That's a good way of putting it.
     
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    That's all good and well but "coming together" with an evil agenda does not stop the agenda. After these last 4 years, they can kiss my ass crack. Now suddeny, it's supposed to be positive posey? I dont think so....screw that noise. Laying down and taking it like a good boy, is the problem.
     

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