Sweden has had schools open, over 1 million kids and no deaths

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some very good news from Sweden for those with school age children:

    Sweden Has Had Schools Open, More Than One Million Kids, & No Deaths - LewRockwell

    It turns out that just as many dissenters and conspiracy theorists in the US have pointed out during the last year, school kids have very few problems with Covid.

    Should we learn from this? Should this be discussed in the halls of local and state and federal governments?

    Should this be mandatory reading for local school board members?
     
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    Deaf ears

    Democrat voters like the government to have greater control of their lives. The media continues the fear mongering and we see the great state of FL, which is open, doing much better than states such as NY. We even see the FL haters coming here for the warmer weather and to be able to actually live, but they still parrot the Democrat talking points about how bad our Governor is. Crazy isn't it?
     
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    rightys want the masses of poor they've purposely created to suffer and want to remove all Gmt help, that's what they mean when they claim to want less official oppression when oppression is their middle name. fear mongerer is their nickname, they really like it. keep whining lol we love it!
     
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    you may wish to read the Constitution. Then you will be better prepared to understand those of us who do not support govt over-reach
     
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    you mean the one left in the sewer by the last 4yrs of traitor baby and his mob who use it as a weapon upon those they hate?
     
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    From the perspective of those who understand the Constitution, that mob was in error.
    The US Constitution decentralizes the decision of electing president, leaving it up to the states. So if that mob had an issue with the presidential election, they should not have taken out their vengeance on the US capitol. The individual states are responsible for running the US federal presidential elections.

    Anyway, this discussion seems to be drifting off-topic very early into the thread.
    Let's try to get back, shall we?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally don't believe the situation in Sweden is entirely applicable to the US, since the US (or at least many parts of it) is much more like a filthy dingy Third World.

    That being said, many Third World countries have apparently not had much other choice than to let the virus spread rampant, and have not seemed to suffer too much for it. Just a very small fraction of their total population dying.
     
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    but that's not where Mike and Nancy's heads were which the mob wanted to detach from their bodies
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we try to get back to the topic of schools in Sweden and the pandemic please?
     
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    Sweden is dinky and have a population which largely behaves and believes in science instead of an angry orange goblin and a God who don't give a rip, they can risk it where opening schools etc here is just screaming BLUE LIGHT SPECIAL! and then there's no controlling the raging mob in this country who refuse to mask up but will yell in your face about their special freedumbs. we must start sending out good info to make the deniers believe but until we have all Governors on the same page forget about trying anything but the new closings Biden must endorse to beat this twice impeached thing, bad / no info, and the virus.
     
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    Sounds to me like Sweden acted like a single country and tackled the pandemic in harmony to get a handle on it. Unlike our country being left up to each of the individual 50 states that had no common, organized plan that had to go helter-skelter on their own to try and fight the problem. Shows what a difference a leader makes.
     
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    One size doesn't fit all. What is implemented in LA isn't right for Poland Maine
     
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    That's a good argument if you don't let people in LA go to Portland, Maine or people in Portland goto LA. but unfortunately that's not how it works is it?
     
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    Actually, I said Poland ME which is a small town. You don't need punitive rules for rural America and generally, the local govt isn't power hungry trying to run the lives of others. One size doesn't fit all much like Sweden works because it's not a top travel destination and, Sweden has 1/2 the population of the state of Florida. You need to keep things in perspective.

    The holiday surge in FL has peaked and is heading down. What we now have are folks who live under tyranny in other states coming to FL because it's warm, and they can live a little. It's comical to think that these Democrat voters elect those politicians yet flee to a liberty loving state. Yes, they bring their covid with them and yes, FL vaccinates them.
     
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    Any long-term health effects for any of those kids? That's what I'd like to know. And in time we will know.
     
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    I also think with eadh state operating differently what would have happened in WW 11 at Normandy if instead of Eisenhower commanding the whole thing we left it up to each platoon leader to decide what to do. Boy, talk about a cluster f---. That's what trump did to us.
     
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    I'd also like to know how many people died as a result of coming into contact with a pupil or teacher who was carrying the virus. If there was even just one death the thread title is a lie and I think it further demonstrates the inability of some to understand the nature of contagious diseases and their desperation to avoid making personal sacrifices for the common good.
     
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    So Sweden has a higher rate of covid 19 compared to other Scandinavian countries. That’s what happens when you adopt herd immunity. You can’t ignore the elephant in the room. It doesn’t really matter that one population in Sweden didn’t get sick. Sweden as a whole Ian getting sick at rates much worse.

    Now my guess the reason why is because of all the safety measures put in place. IE, they didn’t skimp out on safety. The reason we don’t know is because the bised article doesn’t really tell us what safety measures were put in place. Come up with a better source if you want your findings to be heard.
     
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    At least the short term, extending out to about a year, has been positive, as the article relates.

    The Swedish students seem to be doing fine, with not a single death.

    The US students in many states are suffering increased suicides from the lockdown loneliness. The students are being neglected in their social development, and their psyches are being screwed with in a big way. They are being conditioned to mistrust each other and strangers in general.

    Compare and contrast Sweden and the US.

    What are they doing in Australia as far as schooling?
     
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    The UK tried that with our tier levels which quickly became disastrous leading to massive increase in rates of infections. For example, a small island, the Isle of Wight, was allocated the lowest tier level 1 because of its small rate of infection. Unfortunately the mainland counties a few miles away were allocated tier 3 (highest then was tier 4). Within 3 weeks the infection rate for the island exceeded that of the mainland counties. We are now all in tier 5
     
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    oh good grief

    maybe you should study Patton if you try and quote WW2 especially with respect to Ike.
     
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    oh good grief, not a very good deflection.
     
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    Once again the Swedish model excels as the US model fails miserably.
     
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    Norway 10,654 cases per million, 95 deaths per million
    Sweden 51,660 cases per million, 1,019 deaths per million
    Finland 7,197 cases per million, 111 deaths per million
     
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    I've read this lewrockwell website a couple of times in the past and it always took only a few minutes of research to see that they seem to publish highly incorrect and misleading information.
    This source says seven children in Sweden died from Covid-19.
    As of January 6, 2021:
    9 years and younger: 5 deaths.
    10 to 19 years: 2 deaths.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/

    Seven is not an awful lot one might argue, but it's definitely not "no deaths."
     
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