What will win the god wars? Faith, Fantasy, Facts, or God?

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the snow job...but you did not answer the question....
    Or did you simply ignore the question because it is beneath your degree of intellect?
     
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    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please don't tell me you were one of those kids that received a trophy even though you didn't win anything? I'm conversing with you, arn't I? Excuse me! I think I got a bite:fishing:
     
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    yes.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's too bad....I would have liked to hear some intelligent thoughts from your mind...
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you've intelligently answered my question with that insightful reply
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Faith cannot be factual.

    To this quoted bit.

    You are correct on religions having benefits.

    You are wrong if you think them worthy of us when they preach so much filth against the law of the land.

    There are no benefits for gays and women.

    Know that you begin with religious hate for half the planet, before their benefits, whatever you see those are being, kick in.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh! You want elaboration also?
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Gods cannot be anything else but human because only humans can express any knowledge of facts about any god.

    Prove me wrong.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Rally?
    So you know whats in the minds of every creature that exists throughout the universe?
    Bit arrogant dont you think?
    you stand proven wrong.
    I have full faith in the physics used in the project to work perfectly.
    proven wrong 2wice
    https://www.oscarwildetours.com/gay-gods-heroes/
    proven wrong again

    Female Images of God in the Bible – Women's Ordination ...
    www.womensordination.org › resources-old › female-i...

    “Humankind was created as God's reflection: in the divine image God created them; female and male, God made them.” Hosea 11:3-4 God described as a mother.
    and proven wrong again
     
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    I stayed in trouble constantly in Catholic school because I asked to many questions. I had to bring my parents to school because I wrote a paper defending Martin Luther's stand against the church. Mother inferior threatened to expel me my final year if I didn't stop making a couple nuns cry because they felt they failed me in teaching me the word of God. They even brought in the priests to straiten me out. I agree whole-heartedly that interpretation should not be in the hands of amateurs but can be extremely dangerous in the hands of the learned. When I was in my 20's I bought a two volume set of "The History of Christianity". By the time I got through the first book I was no longer a Catholic. When I would ask my parish priest a question his pat answer was " You have to take it on faith". I believe today in a God but not in any manmade religion. I never forced any of my children to believe in God or religion. I still enjoy researching religion and try to understand how a few can control millions even to this day. It is not just the religions. The masses who are willing to follow the Charlie Manson's, Jim Jones, Louis Farrakhan's, Adolph Hitler's etc. What is so lacking in men's character that they get caught up in clutches of evil in the name of righteousness?
     
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    A "one world government" would surely be hierarcical as is our own government.

    We have national, state and local government. A "one world government" would usrely be a layer above that where issues involving the interactiosn of all countries and other such issues crossing country boundaries are the issue.

    Today, we have the UN, WHO, WTO, UN based human rights organizations, world court, etc., etc. These ARE essentially parts of a one world government.

    The USA has a pretty good contingent that doesn't like that, as they would like to be independent of any law and operating to our own benefit based on our economic and military power, NOT on the basis of law - even though we claim to be dedicated to the rule of law rather than "might makes right".

    I strongly doubt that this level of government would make things boring!

    But, it absolutely WOULD make things better for the majority of those living on Earth.
     
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    yeh, cant even keep the corruption out of local muni, city, county and state, much less even greater disconnection from a world gubmint
     
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    I had hoped to hear more of your thoughts on the Gandhi quote in your post below....
    ....that is one of my favorites
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps it would be accurate to say....Humans created god(s) in their own image....no?
     
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    I won an art award in 6th grade and found out later it was by random selection....but no trophy...and no actual win either.
    But at least you're fishing is going well.
     
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    Thank you!!!
    I've been visiting this forum for years hoping to see such words of wisdom as you have posted above....
    ....and in all that time I have perceived but few.
    It is greatly appreciated
     
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    Shouldnt use hitler as evil, should use britain and churchill and the zionists as evil, since it is they who used hitler as a pawn, and now scapegoat.

    Look into the middle east section for 'about the holocaust' thread if you have any doubts. To date there is no evidence that hitler did what was claimed and more evidence that proves that he did not.
     
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    Jesus taught that we are all children of god and scriptures say that it is god's will that none of us be lost. We are all destined for godhood.

    To suggest that a god would create a hierarchy of souls would also be suggesting that there is a hierarchy of gods.

    The history and lie of hell that some believe think in black and white. Heaven and hell are where the only two places where one can end.

    The first commandment shows that Yahweh does not recognize the other gods that he fears.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    That is what I said.

    That is what you get when you have a French mind giving an English point of reason and irrefutable truth.

    I like my way because few of us are genocidal and infanticidal as Yahweh.

    Whoever invented him was a real degenerate of some kind.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    That is good news! I was not trying to correct you at all with my statement...."Perhaps it would be accurate to say....Humans created god(s) in their own image....no?"
    ...I was merely asking you if....my statement/opinion.... was in agreement with your own.

    I do agree.
    Perhaps if humans come to realize that the god(s) they worship...or pretend to worship...are of their own making....
    maybe then they will give up their illusions.
     
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    Humans have an abundance of answers...they know it all…
    if you don’t believe that...just ask them.
    Seldom will you hear a human say...”I don’t know”.
    Instead of saying I don’t know...they simply ridicule the question or the questioner.
    That is why I am grateful for your question...it is a sign of wisdom...in my opinion.
    I sincerely hope that @Greatest I am will offer some response to your question.
     
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    Yes...I believe that is why your "French Mind" contributions are valuable here....
    mere words in any one language can not adequately express what is pointed at in the written religious texts.
     
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    You may be correct....do you really have "a need" for what you call God? Does anyone?
    Do you actually "need" anything at all?
     
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    There is only one God of mankind. He is real and he lives. Evidence of his existence is by way of the concept of origin. Like water might pour from a cleft in a rockface cliff, it comes from elsewhere. Similarly our consciences, the swellings and urgings of love, regret, the feeling to ask forgiveness when we have trespassed against another, the urgings to forgive, and so forth, are like the water from the cleft in the rockface of a cliff pouring into our hearts, intellects and spirits. We don't know from where it comes, but that it is, and must have an origin. We are no more the origin of these supersensory human phenomena than the cleft makes its own water. God is real. And we are ever his beneficiaries.
     
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    Humans are made in the image of God.......
    Prayer Groups will win against the wars that we eight billion infinitely precious humans tend to get into......

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/future.html#a03

     

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