Impeachment hearings vs law

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^^^ Nailed it... and your others posts are solid too.

    In fact, Trump told people to be "peaceful" prior to the riots when he spoke at the rally.



    Trump literally did 100% the opposite of what the Democrats and Establishment Neo-Cons claim he did. It's amazingly Orwellian, because they know the MSM and Big Tech won't be sharing the video above with the public. People would have to hunt to find it.

    All the constitutional scholars are against this impeachment. Turley, Dershowitz, etc...
     
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    Me too. Unfortunately the gains did not outweigh the damage caused over the years. Certainly not life changing.
     
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    Nearly resulted in my wife and I both being laid off. It worked out for us, not everyone was as lucky.
     
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    May I ask what industry?
     
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    Public employee unions
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Insurrection is a very subjective term. And you have to be very careful with things that subjective. But this is political BS/games. They're chargeing Trump with Insurrection, yet antifa/BLM are not being charged with it. And there is more of a case charges to be brought against them, then with Trump. Yet, no insurrection charges or any charges for that matter.
     
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    On a constitutional issue he may, he is not under the jurisdiction of the Senate after he leaves and is a private citizen and only the Chief Justice can sit at the head of the Senate trial of THE President no one else can sit in his place. We only have one President at a time. And even if they did it, and then if Trump, a BIG if, runs in four years and the first State refuses to put him on a ballot because of it he will go to the Supreme Court and plead his rights are being violated, the trial to deny him the right to hold office was when he was a private citizen and for retribution not removal from office. And we may have a very serious constitutional crisis.

    Article III Section 2
    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States,.....

    ...In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

    It would be a constitutional issue of equity along with the constitutionality of impeaching and sanctioning a private citizen, no where does the Constitution grant that power to the Legislative Branch.
     
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  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    as a little side note, it does not say anything about religion, speech, or arms does it LOL:lol:
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats a really good point, thanks, and sad to say with the way politics is going in this country it would be a shot in the arm. Like an incorrigible drunk cant start to heal till they hit rock bottom.

    this is what the impeachment is 'really' about:


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    Trump-Pelosi Feud On Camera: His Handshake Snub, Her "Courteous" Payback

    Washington: A bitter feud between United States President Donald Trump and top Democrat Nancy Pelosi boiled over at his State of the Union speech on Tuesday, with Trump denying her a handshake and Pelosi ripping apart a copy of his remarks behind his back.

    https://www.thehansindia.com/news/i...s-handshake-snub-her-courteous-payback-602739

     
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    No ... that is not the point!
    Politicians have been lying about their jobs since the beginning of history ... being the best possible liar is part of the job description. Trump is a special case, because never before has an elected head of state in this world spread so many lies, half-truths and unproven claims as alleged truth in 4 years! Even the worst dictators in history and their propaganda are pure and poor amateurs towards Trump in this regard!
     
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    Well ... I would say some sort of "Action" followed by "Reaction" of the otherone as answer ;-)
    And that's about "how to do propaganda" by Trumponians ... they show mostly only the left photo and hide the right one / the complete story!
     
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    Wrong. Again.

    Why do you keep posting that Same Misinterpretation (and Misinformation) in regards to The Constitution?

    Everybody KNOWS (and who has actually researched the matter is aware)--That The Constitution does NOT expressly prevent such an Impeachment:

    But this may not be an obstacle to starting the process. The Constitution is silent on the question of whether a Senate trial can be held after a president has left office. The 1876 impeachment of War Secretary William Belknap for graft after he left office may serve as precedent.

    https://theconversation.com/impeach...ally-risky-act-heres-how-it-could-work-152965

    Also, the Clause that refers to the Chief Justice has (absolutely) nothing to do with the TIMELINE of the Impeachment.

    It only lays out the duties of the Chief Justjce (in circumstances where the President is on trial).

    Glad to clear that up for you.
     
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    neither however does it confer the powers to do so, though when has that ever stopped our beacon of freedom from doing whatever the hell they want outside their confines of 'positive' law?
     
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    Did I omit something? Got a pic or a link of that other side?
     
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    While I agree with you at being the best possible liar, I dont think there is anyone on the planet that tops hillary lol
     
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    What if he were actually the candidate with the most votes? What if there actually was misbehavior by the Democrats?
     
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    In order
    Then he’d have won
    Then someone would have proved it by now
     
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    Belknap was not the President and was aquitted so it was never tested........fail. The Constitution is NOT silent on an impeachment of the President as I cited.
     
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    What if many have demonstrated the statistical irregularities and the suspicious behavior of those running the counting operations but the mainstream media refused to discuss those things?

    What if the rationale offered by the censors was that "our audience is not interested in such things"?

    What if the courts imitated the mainstream media?
     
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    Badge of honor is how it will be remembered
     
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    Update for the last polls.


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    I guess you didn't witness trump attempt to overturn his election defeat by shovelling a gigantic pile of steaming bullshit upon the courts, the media and MAGA. He kept it up for months.

    Sadly many can't see the difference between a racial justice demonstration that got out of hand (and have been for decades) and a historic first, targetted assault on the Capitol to disrupt the peaceable legal transfer of power instigated by the sitting president.
    Must be the dense miasmic white outgases produced by that stinking miasmic pile. What do you think?
     
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    Thats cool, had nothing do with what I posted through. Nice statment too. saything this one is bad but its. Well at the sametime saying this 1000x worse.
     
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