Guard troops deployed throughout downtown Sacramento in advance of expected violence

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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Below where you cut off your google search definition above we find this:

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    When someone is criticizing another for unsubstantiated claims, I would expect substantiation from the criticizer for their claims. That would be logical and expected. When the criticizer deliberately makes unsubstantiated claims in his criticism, that’s textbook irony. And it’s amusing. :)

    Any word yet on who the specific post-fact people or groups are? LOL
     
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    A failed or poorly planned coup is still a coup. If a group attempts to use violence to overthrow a democratically elected president, it’s a coup. Sorry that the MAGAts threw a stupid coup. I can see why that would be embarrassing.
     
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    They were not criticizing another for unsubstantiated claims, they were criticizing them for refusing to post a source after asked with the defense of “do your own homework”. If they were criticizing someone for having no source while also providing no source themselves that could be seen as hypocritical, I still wouldn’t say it is ironic as it isn’t amusing — but maybe we find humor in different ways.

    So it was a reading comprehension issue all this time. Who knew.

    As to who, what group recently elected numerous qanon conspiracy theorists into legislative positions?
     
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    I dont support any violent unrest but Its been explained to me over the past year that even If I dont support their ideas I have to accept people rights to express their thoughts. So like a good citizen, that's what I do.

    I'm sure it scared our govt officials just like it scared our shop owners and citizens. Its pretty scary when it happens eh?

    will they still care next time a group gets out of control on main street USA? Any group?
     
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    Does DC count?
     
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    What does that have to do with Jan 6th. You’re deflecting at this point.
     
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    Ahh. So should I have cajoled the poster of the ironic statement to substantiate a claim I know they can’t substantiate instead of just pointing out the irony? LOL. You are correct the post in question that I first responded to was hypocritical as well. That’s a valid point.

    It’s interesting that an unsubstantiated claim is vastly dissimilar to a claim someone refuses to post a source for. :)
    I can’t help you with your reading comprehension beyond what I already have. I helped you out with the definition of irony, of which you were unaware even after googling the definition. And explained how the definition applies to the content of this thread. Here you are expecting me to do your research on definitions. More irony. LOL
    How is that group different from the conspiracy theorists in the thread I linked to? Why is post-factual behavior criticized in one group but completely acceptable when practiced by another group? Why is misinformation from nutty QAnon bad, but misinformation from supposedly credible media acceptable? I guess maybe I see more humor because I’m not emotionally attached to either source of misinformation.
     
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    Ok, I am not going into the critical concepts of literary terminology as we just seem to disagree what is “funny” or not.

    As to the difference between what word you are trying to insert: “As nouns the difference between hypocrisy and irony is that hypocrisy is the claim or pretense of having]] beliefs, standards, qualities, [[behaviour|behaviours, virtues, motivations, etc which one does not actually have while irony is a statement that, when taken in context, may actually mean something different from, or the opposite of, what is written literally; the use of words expressing something other than their literal intention, often in a humorous context.”

    It literally and figuratively doesn’t mean what you are trying to asset it means.

    Cheers
     
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    Yeah, let's pretend antifa didn't attack federal buildings like court houses and capitals.
     
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    The reason it’s ironic to me is because I’m taking the statement in context. In context the statement does mean the opposite of what was written. But if you can’t accept that, ok. I’m happy you at least admit the statement was hypocritical. That’s a start.

    I do think it’s funny you still can’t address specific post-fact groups except for QAnon, which was the initial unsubstantiated claim I addressed. On the other hand, I’ve provided a link to a thread where I provided solid evidence of post-factual behavior. Of course you have no interest in that demographic. Is that just hypocrisy?
     
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    I don't remember Trump ever being given that by the Democrats or his own party for that matter?
     
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    Funny. Last Friday - -
    Newsom's response to the recall effort is terming it
    an attempted Right wing coup.


    So now a State constitutional recall initiated by "the people" without the consent of the State legislature is a "coup".



    BTW DC is in no way analogous to initiating a deployment to a new foreign war. Is it? Now go stand in the kiddie corner for some time. :hmm:



    Moi :oldman:




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    LOL! Of course, the military is always involved when a dictator is installed.
     
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    Oh ya. I forget that some people dont acknowledge that we've had violent unrest between the Charlottesville and Jan 6.

    My bad, I sometimes think I'm talking to a normal person who is aware of what has been happening around the nation, it's a common mistake.
     
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    Let's not pretend that we had multiple people telling us that the defensive Force around the courthouse were inciting the mob.
     
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    Were they trying to overturn a democratic election?
     
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    No one has tried to do that....except Democrats.
     
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    You should start a thread. This one is about the capital.
     
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    So they just wanted to hang Mike Pence for funsies?
     
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    Where is the evidence they were planning to do so?
     
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    Wonder where all the National Guard were during the violence and destruction last year? Oh, that's right, protection for WE, ska-roo THEE.
     
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    The military is only used to install despot "presidents".
     
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    You haven’t seen the videos of the mobs in the capital chanting to hang mike pence?
     
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    I also saw a video of Madonna mentioning blowing up the white house.....what is your point?
     

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