The people who stormed the capital are.......

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The people who stormed the capital are.......

  1. Patriots trying to save America, and do not deserve to go to jail

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  2. Seditious traitors who should be tossed in jail as long as the law allows.

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  1. Turin

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    Ya, I saw him, and quite a few others begging for pardons.

    What really sucks, is they will probably get them.
     
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    Amazing how you can dismiss law enforcement on one hand, and praise their efforts on the other. A typical Trump strategy that seems to take hold of their policies. The same with their professed luv for the constitution, until it comes down to accepting the valid election results.

    The big lie, that the election was rigged, is why many gop supporters and Trump bear the burden of promoting the violence and insurrection crimes against the state.
     
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    Trump will have to find a way of either knowing their names or just pardoning anyone within a mile of the capital building within 12 hours one way or another of said date. The old pardoning procedure starts to get pretty vague. ;)
     
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    I really hope that we can use some of this time of Gov control to shore up the election laws.

    If Trump and republicans have taught us one thing for sure. Its that Norms and Traditions no longer matter. Unless its encoded very specifically in the law, then all options are on the table.
     
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    That’s the label you live with when you support a racist in Trump who used his power to promote racial divides.
     
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    Exactly. The Lincoln project founders need to be listen to by Dems. Their tactics are harsh, but necessary. Guys like Ted Cruz need to be prosecuted for example.
     
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    Ted Cruz looks like Mother Terresa compared to that freaking wack job they just sent from Colorado. Lauren Broeber I think her name is. This stupid idiot was live tweeting out the location of Nancy Pelosi during the siege, expressly against the advice and request of Capitol police.
     
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    For sure. But Ted Cruz has been wack job for years. He gets elected for being a wack job. So what Ted gives away to Broeber in severity, he makes up in longevity. At some point, wack jobs can’t all promote sedition which “the big” lie is.
     
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    Well, yes, there are some White extremist groups, and there are some Black extremist groups. Who among us does not know that? But to try to create some myth about how ALL White Americans are "racists", delighting in "white-supremacy" and "white-privilege", and that we have been a "racist" society after the adoption of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act in the mid-1960's is nothing but agenda-driven, Leftist propaganda!

    So, you throw a volley of 'whataboutism's' featuring the 'Proud bois" in response to the FACTS I pointed out about REAL racism -- Reverse Discrimination against anyone who isn't Black! As I said (and which you offered no response to at all), we've seen Reverse Discrimination (a.k.a., "Affirmative Action") used a pro-Black leverage in everything from college admissions to restriction of bidding on lucrative government contracts to ONLY "minority-owned concerns". How are THOSE policies fair to all EQUAL American citizens?!

    Since you like 'whataboutism's' then WHAT ABOUT THAT?! Your faction wants to browbeat, bully, and lie about what a "racist" society we are, but I'm telling you this: the surest way for your faction to cultivate and promote a new, virulent, ugly, very REAL racism against Black people in this country is to continue trying to jam "White Guilt" and false allegations of mass "racism" down the throats of people who never discriminated against a Black person in their lives!
     
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    Denying racists have woken since the black skinned president, doesn't mean they have not become more vocal and violent over the last decade.
     
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    The right is under a delusion that if you don’t believe in racism, it’s still OK to practice it for other reasons, including financial gain. They have this fantasy that “ what is in your heart” is more important then what you actually do. Why ? Because people like Trump don’t give a fk. Not giving a fk still makes a person a racist when their actions are.
     
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    You deny the REALITY of so-called "Affirmative Action" mandates that have unfairly dictated policy in everything from college admissions to participation in bidding for government contracts, Te...? DON'T, or you will embarrass yourself even more than you have already in this thread. Hint: I worked intimately with the Federal Government in a number of 'capacities', not least of which was CONTRACTS, and rigid compliance therewith. I know what I'm talking about, but, very candidly, you do NOT....

    Truthfully, those who 'play the "WHITE VICTIM card" often actually DO have a very rock-solid, factual basis for doing so. If you deny that, please respond with something besides wild, blanket accusations that contain no specifics.

    And if you try, again, to veer over into all the nonsense about how American police forces routinely "murder" Blacks for no good reason, please first acknowledge that in EVERY high-visibility case that arose in 2020, the police were dealing with Blacks who were being arrested for committing CRIMES, and who, for reasons of their own, RESISTED LAWFUL ARREST.

    Honestly, Te, you're usually more rational than you have been lately.... But, it has been a highly stressful period for us all. "Sad!"
     
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    OK, I think I understand now. Anyone who denies the Left's delusional, speculative, and unsubstantiated charges of racism is himself, automatically, a racist.

    Good God, I see Orwell's "1984" materializing right before my eyes....
     
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    No, it is obvious you have no understanding.
     
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    Then please, Dairy, make it clear to a dullard like myself... exactly what "racism" it is that is so ubiquitous and pervasive throughout America today? Is it fringe groups like "Proud bois" that you believe represent the root-and-stem beliefs of a majority of Americans?

    If that were even remotely true, then how in the world could this intractably and continuously "RACIST" America have ever put the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 into cast-in-stone LAW way back in time, when this country was ostensibly far more "racist" than it is today...?

    Hypothetical question: would White Americans be correct in assuming that the views of a fringe Black group, like NFAC, represents the viewpoint of most Black Americans...? Still think "Proud bois" represents the views of most White Americans...?

    [​IMG]. NFAC -- Radical, all-Black militia....
     
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    Definition of racism

    1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    IMO, there is only 1 race, the human race, with many different cultures and ethnicities.
     
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    I am determined that I can find at least something that I can agree with you on, so I will wholeheartedly agree with you that there is only ONE 'race' BEFORE THE LAW, WITH REFERENCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, AS AMENDED. There!

    Modern geneticists would not agree that there is only one human race, but take some comfort in knowing that their growing body of research over the past twenty years does not (NOT) confirm the idea that the race with the highest IQ is the White race (Caucasian) ... because the race which does have the highest overall IQ is the East-Asian (Oriental) race! If nothing else, it kind of 'blows a hole' in anyone's idea of "White Supremacy".

    BTW, I'm a comparative 'knuckle-dragging' Caucasian, of Northern European descent, totally devoid of any East-Asian blood, so it's not like I'm 'tooting my own horn' here, OK?!

    [​IMG]. "Don't worry... if anybody can do a better job of running the world, it'll be us!" 8)
     
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    All those white victims can stand in line. The biggest victim, Trump is “selling” pardons now. Let’s see, instead of just a few seditionists at the capital, let’s shoot for thousands so Trump can make a sht load of “white Victim” profits.
     
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    Boo Hoo.
    Someone in the band of munchkins is being held accountable.
     
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    BS. I guess you haven’t read any science text in the last few decades. IQ as a measure of intellect is useless. No one uses IQ measure, except racists.
     
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    Apparently you've never heard of the Mensa group?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International

    They're quite renowned, surprised you've never heard of them.

    Just showing you that as usual your broad brush strokes are getting you no where. Reality just doesn't suit it.
     
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    So much for that unity you supposedly wanted huh? All that you know how to do is use broad brush strokes and insults. There is no intellectualism in your posts. Just repeated talking points that do not align with reality. IE: propaganda that you refuse to look beyond or examine.
     
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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that all you have left is the WORTHLESS white VICTIM card, Cy!

    Rightwing whites are NOT victims, they are OPPRESSORS!

    They have SUPPRESSED minority white votes for DECADES!

    They have turned a blind eye to RACIST policies that HARM minorities!

    They have ACTIVELY legislated against minorities when it comes to funding education and welfare.

    They went off the deep end racist when Obama was elected as DOCUMENTED by the RISE in White Supremacist Militias nationwide.

    They DENIGRATE minorities in urban areas while IGNORING that they CAUSED those conditions by eliminating the FUNDING necessary to improve them.

    That you IGNORE all of the FACTS above and instead FIXATE on playing your white VICTIM card indicates that YOU have chosen to RETURN to the GOP and EMBRACE their nefarious unamerican policies.

    Don't try and deny it either, Cy!

    The CONTENT of your posts exposes any denial as nothing more then disingenuous lip service.

    Sad!
     
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    Like I’ve said, the only people who use IQ are racist and bigots. . You just proved my point. The most renowned intuitions that promote the uses of our intellect at the highest levels, are our research facilities, the military, the arts and the institutes of higher learning including SPORTS teams. None use IQ scores to determine entry. They all use performance results that are very specific to required areas.

    It’s so specific that..for example that higher level sports performance and even survival skills requires a higher intellect in decision making specific to the tasks they have to perform.

    Any nimrod knows that intellect is very specific and task related and cannot be generalized by a single number. Get with the program. Just believing in IQ is an indicator of diminished intellectual capability specific to problem solving in biology.
     
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    Ha ha
    You have me mistaken for someone else. I want no unity in politics with fact deniers. Now, if a female conservative is a good cook, dancer or plays golf well, we’ll break bread, dance and hit the links together. But, I want no unity with them in politics what so ever. And they better not promote their fact less based morays either.....don’t want to hear it.
     
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