Admit it, Republicans, aren't you, deep down inside, kinda GLAD Trump is gone?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Trump-Inspired Domestic Terrorism will be dealt with Harshly by the Relevant Authorities.

    "Bumpy"? Yeah, when the the Domestic Terrorists ride in the Wagon to Prison.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well now, you're in luck, just so happens I have the poll from last June, way BEFORE the election: 3 to 1 in the WRONG direction

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  3. GrayMan

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    In the least, we have the power to choose where we put our money, which is the fuel of any corporation or business.
    We also have the ability to share, patronize, invest, promote, and donate to media and real journalists who fight for truth or at least do not hide and suppress information.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think you understand what this election is really about.

    It's about getting rid of the crazy.

    It's about getting rid of the trolling

    It's about getting rid of science denial

    It's about restoring America's stature as a world leader, as a beacon of liberal democracy, in the world.

    It's about not kissing Putin's butt.

    It's about getting rid of asinine speech and pettiness in the presidency.

    It's about getting a back to some semblance of normalcy in the presidency

    It's about getting rid of narcissism

    It's about having an empathetic, caring, president

    It's about hiring competent staff

    It's about restoring separation of powers, removing the abuse of power that was Trump's constant companion.

    It's about a lot of things, but most of all, its' about getting rid of Trump.

    Anything beyond that is icing on the cake.

    so far so good.
     
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  5. GrayMan

    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    What are you going on about? I don't think they will do anything about ANTIFA but maybe now that the democrats have the presidency, they will.

    I am not talking about any physical altercation. I am talking about conservatives waking up and becoming active instead of sitting and waiting for our leaders to save us. I am talking about the backlash that will result from the shutdown of conservatives and businesses from corporate monopolies and government alike.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Okay, what, pray tell, do you consider 'social authoritarianism' ?
     
  7. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's also about responsibility for everything that happens. No excuses, no deflection, no blaming the Republicans. Starting in 2 days, Democrats own this baby, lock, stock, and barrel. You asked for this, you got it.

    We'll be watching, expecting Biden and his "competent staff" to do everything perfectly.
     
  8. Independent4ever

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    Yep - when 4K die from covid Thursday - Biden's fault
    If Unemployment is not at a record low for January-Biden's fault
    If 1Q21 GDP - not a record - Biden's fault

    There is a transition period with every administration. Anyone blaming Trump for every issue in 2017 will be as wrong as blaming Biden for everything in 2021. New issues - yes, but there are a lot of issues in progress

    Of course Trump was still blaming Obama for things in 2020, but that is ok I assume.......
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    HIstorically speaking, America has done better with a democrat as president than with a republican as president.

    The two major crashes, 1929 and 2008, a republican was president.

    the only time in history since Coolidge has there been a budget surplus, a Democrat was president.

    10 of the last 11 recessions, a republican was president

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    So, while you are blaming presidents for EVERYTHING, i got more, a lot more

    Since 1962
    • GDP growth has been 75% higher under Democratic Presidents.
    • Business Investment Growth has been 126% higher under Democratic Presidents.
    • Unemployment has been 15% higher under Republican Presidents.
    • Average increase in weekly earnings have been positive under Democratic Presidents and negative under Republican Presidents

    Job Growth
    Democratic Presidents have helped create 21 million more jobs than Republican Presidents, and on year-to-year basis jobs have grown nearly twice as fast under Democratic Presidents as under Republican Presidents.
    • Total jobs created under Democratic Presidents: 68,312,000
    • Total jobs created under Republican Presidents: 32,194,000
    • Average yearly growth in jobs under Democratic Presidents: 1,952,000
    • Average yearly growth in jobs under Republican Presidents: 825,500

    GDP Growth
    Real Gross Domestic Product growth under Democratic Presidents has been 75% higher than during Republican Presidents.
    • Average GDP growth per year under Democratic Presidents: 3.50%
    • Average GDP growth per year under Republican Presidents: 2.02%

    Business Investment Growth
    Real business investment growth under Democratic Presidents has been 126% higher than under Republican Presidents.
    • Average growth per year under Democratic Presidents: 6.6%
    • Average growth per year under Republican Presidents: 2.92%

    Federal Budget Deficits
    Federal budget deficits under Republican Presidents collectively are 54% higher than under Democratic Presidents (as a percentage of GDP, Republican Presidents have been 65% higher than Democratic Presidents).
    • Democratic Presidents' annual deficits averaged 2.07% of GDP
    • Republican Presidents' annual deficits averaged 3.42% of GDP
    • Total Democratic Budget Deficits: $8,085.1 billion
    • Total Republican Budget Deficits: $12,442.5 billion

    Unemployment
    Unemployment under Republican Presidents has been 15% higher than under Democratic Presidents.
    • Average unemployment per year during Democratic Presidents: 5.59%
    • Average unemployment per year during Republican Presidents: 6.43%

    Growth In Spending
    Federal Spending has increased twice as fast under Republican Presidents than under Democratic Presidents
    • Democratic Presidents' annual spending increased by an average of $36.9 billion per year
    • Republican Presidents' annual spending increased by an average of $78.6 billion per year

    Balance of Trade
    Trade deficits under Republican Presidents have been 39% higher than under Democratic Presidents.
    • Total trade deficit under Democratic Administrations (in millions): $5,625,690
    • Total trade deficit under Republican Administrations (in millions): $7,042,879


    So, go head, blame democrats for EVERYTHING, but don't omit the good, which I'm sure you will.
     
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  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everything perfectly?

    Listen to you.

    With that kind of attitude, who cares what you think?

    Just getting rid of Trump is a tremendous improvement for America, just because he's gone.

    If the country just plods along at it's current pace, we're doing better because Trump is gone.

    the national tone, the morale of the nation, is lifted. We have a normal president who doesn't act like a moron, we'll get our respect from other foreign leaders. Just getting rid of Trump is a great relief.

    For me, Biden doesn't have to be perfect, for me, all he has to be is NOT TRUMP.
     
  11. Seth Bullock

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    Actually, the death toll from Covid is partly Biden's fault. It was he who immediately called out Trump for "hysterical xenophobia" right after he stopped travel from China. And Nancy? She told everyone to go to Chinatown, shop, dine, and have fun.

    I expect unemployment to be back to 3% by the end of the year because the Democrats have so vociferously criticized the roll-out of the vaccines, so apparently they are going to see to it that it rolls out much faster and more efficiently, and we all go back to work. Certainly, much sooner than if Trump were the President! Much sooner.

    I'll give them to the end of the year to have the GDP rockin.

    I expect Joe to deal with the tens of thousands of immigrants on the way to the border perfectly. While pledging not to deport anyone other than known criminals, but while condemning making anyone wait in Mexico for their processing, even though the history is that over 90% of immigrants do not show up for immigration hearings once they're inside the U.S., I'm expecting Joe to handle this perfectly. Could be hundreds of thousands, but Joe will know what to do, perfectly.

    Biden has called for healing and unity, so I expect him to tell Democrats to stop hating, stop censoring, and stop villifying one half of the American population. I expect a major speech from him telling his supporters, congressional Democrats, the left wing media, and the tech giants to stop it.

    I expect Joe to strongly combat espionage by, and fight for balanced trade with, his family business partner, China.

    Joe has 48 years of experience in Washington, so there is no excuse for not having all the right answers and making all the right decisions. Trump, who had no experience in Washington, did nothing right according to Democrats. So surely, a 48 year veteran can be expected to do everything right.

    And the Democrats in Congress and Joe have no Republicans to stop them from finally being able to govern the nation perfectly.

    This should be great!

    Right?

    Those of us who didn't vote for Biden will still be here, waiting and watching ...
     
  12. Seth Bullock

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    Oh my, you have set the bar so low! Biden has 48 years of experience in Washington. Surely, you can set the bar higher than that for a 48 year veteran, can't you? Hell, Kim Jong-un isn't Trump either.

    Is this going to be the narrative for the next four years? "Yeah he effed up again, but he's not Trump!"

    As Joe likes to say, "Come on, man!"
     
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  13. Patricio Da Silva

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    Of course he'll do better in many respects, but getting rid of a president who has no class whatsoever and not worthy of the office, is a great relief. I have good expectations with Biden.

    But no one is perfect, so that attitude isn't even rational, it's more of vengeful/resentful attitude.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    the end of Trump is the end of an error
     
  15. GrayMan

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    It encompasses many ideologies on the left that basically believe in betraying individual liberty for the overall moral or collective good.

    https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

    I test as a moderate liberal, I support local minimum wages, a state run public healthcare option, state paid leave for sick workers, and many other social programs. Yet, I find how the left operates with the violent protesting, shutdowns, dehumanizing the right as nazis and racists, the obsessive hatred that is spewed 24hrs on Trump, the Alarmism and anti-science zealotry of the left shutting down scientists who don't fall in line, boycotting businesses because they don't share your ideology, etc, etc... all abhorrent. The recent deplatforming and devaluing of the most sacred human right, free speech, is the final and most revealing of who the left is today.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, dems stay home because of covid. Most of Trump's entourage is infected.

    so what does your photo prove?

    We save our energy and health and vote by mail. all 81,000,000 of us.

    What it means is that dems are WISER than republicans.
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    You don't understand what authoritarianism is.

    It's rule by men, not of law or votes.

    If a liberal is elected, and his agenda is passed by elected representatives and senators, you might not like the laws/agenda he or she gets passed, but it became law because of democracy.

    So, a law or agenda that you don't like is passed by the legislature, it, cannot possibly be authoritarian nor can it 'betray' your liberty, because agenda you find distasteful was the result of democracy, which you chose to abide by. The only way you can choose NOT to abide by it is to leave the country and renounce your citizenship. You live here, you give consent by virtue of your citizenship. That is what 'consent of the governed' means.


    YOu're therefore conflating a bunch of things, and you are swaying from logic and reason.

    Democrats do not support violence.

    Both the left and the right have their extreme violent elements on their respective far end of the spectrum, that's life, and neither are supported by the vast majority of each, so please abstain with that kind of characterization.

    Some shut downs are unavoidable, some could easily have been errors in judgement, but no one in charge is going to please you, or anyone else, for that matter, all of the time. These are difficult times, and the so the government has to walk a fine between not killing the economy, but not killing it's citizens, so if we are going to err, on which side to we err on ?

    I'd say err on the side of saving lives. People are going to bitch, but saving lives is more important.

    You are really not thinking clearly on this subject.

    AS for Trump, he is not worthy of anything but complete and utter contempt, he has no empathy, no humility, he's an abject failure and poses a serious threat to US National Security. Plus he's rotten and corrupt to the core, up and above and beyond any president in history. Are you paying attention?

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    LMAO! Were you asleep the last 4 years??? That is hilarious!! :roflol:
     
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    i tried to sleep but could not .. Trump would not allow it ,,every time I turned on the tv or radio , within 30 seconds the reports would be another insane statement or action from trump .. then if there was a slight break in the news trump would tweet all hours of the day and night like a crazed teenage girl ..
    If trump would have just acted like a sane adult instead of a crazed teenage girl that suffered from pms then the news would have stopped reporting he was crazy .. the last 4 years went like this .. trumps acts or says something crazy .. the news reports his exact words or tweets verbatim ..then trump starts the fake news when his insanity has no defense

    I say good riddance to Trump

    and to say the Democrats have no excuses for the next 4 years and they will be responsible for every failure during the Biden term let me point out the GOP had complete control the first 2 years of trumps term .. other than tax cuts for the rich, was there anything close to an accomplishment similar to obuma care ?? Obuma at least had the class to welcome trump and his whore to the whitehouse .. like the little girl trump is , he shows his true colors to the very last minute .

    suck it up buttercup

    trump is a loser
     
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    One more day, and then

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    When I see MSM journalists post tweets like this:
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    The fascist left not only want to purge all conservative voices from social media, they now want to completely excise them from the economy. They are allowed to post this insanity on Twitter with no consequence whatsoever. Let the healing begin.
     
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    For sure. But I don't spend any money on media so I will leave it up to you stop your subscription. I invest only in myself and I donate to no media. I'll continue ignoring it.
     
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    I just got a laugh out of being accused of a vengeful/resentful attitude. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

    Biden is a 48 year veteran of Washington politics. I can accept some mistakes from a rookie, but not from a 48 year veteran.

    For 4 years Democrats have said that everything Trump did was wrong. So I expect them to do everything right, being led by a 48 year veteran and having control of Congress.

    No excuses, no deflection, no escaping responsibility.

    The rubber hits the road starting tomorrow.

    So suck it up, buttercup!
     
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    Oh for christ's sake, that's just a fleeting and very emotional opinion on twitter.

    And, from that tweet you extrapolate that all democrats are going to ban conservatives from speaking!

    Now you are sounding like a fascist.
     
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    Well quite frankly, I've a rather extensive posting history here, so if you can't figure out what my positions on, say, immigration are from that it would be surprising. Of course there are more to the people posting here than their actual posting. Everyone has I assume, full lives outside this forum, but I'm not interested in their full lives, only their political positions as posted here.
     

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