The threat of armed protests fizzles... for now / in 2 days, Biden/Harris will be inaugurated

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  1. Grau

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    I think you'll have to admit that you can make the Capitol riot look as tame or as violent as you want to based on which photos you chose to display.
     
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    Only the most violent, criminal activities count...most documented by the "genius" filthy traitors who video'd themselves..
     
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    I have yet to hear the MSM refer to the storming of the U.S. Capitol as an armed insurrection, but typically as an angry, insurrectionist mob. Do you dispute that they were angry? If you dispute the term, "mob," then your understanding of that word does not comport with the way it is commonly understood (including by those who publish dictionaries).

    So I take it, if you had any objection to that characterization, it would be with the term insurrectionist. However, as the goal of, "stopping the steal," that is, interfering with the lawful process of our government certifying our election results, in an attempt at intimidating lawmakers into trying to alter those results, was a clear, primary motivator of their action, I think there is a legitimate basis to to call it insurrection-ist, at least; that is, while not a full-fledged revolt, it was more like, had more in common with, an insurrection, in both its intents (negating the prescribed functioning of our governmrntal system) and its violent methods, than with a, Constitutionally-protected, peaceful protest (even in those cases during which random violence and vandalism have occurred).

    Lastly, regarding the, "armed," terminology: while I have not found that to be part of the standard description, it is, nevertheless, fair for the news to note that the weapons, scattered amongst the participants, were more profuse than the average viewer would expect to encounter, typically, in a crowd of that size (anywhere other than, say, at a gun rally). This is especially true in that the word, "armed," is not limited to refer solely to guns, but to weapons of any sort. In fact, when the term has been used, I would expect that the norm has been to follow it with a listing; e.g., "...the mob, armed with..." As gun-rights advocates are quick to point out, in counter-arguments to the dangerousness of guns, many other weapons can leave a victim just as dead.
     
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    link goes to a donate button.

    ...so, is the AWB and banning online sales all typical DC BS, or are you just grouping those in with 'helps to enforce current laws'?
     
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    Why would they need to make it up when they can just film agent provacateurs in MAGA hats? You're making it far more complicated than it needs to be.
     
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    I think you'll have to admit that you choosing your own reality sure does have its advantages. One can avoid some much embarassing and messy drama and talk about questioning one's blind belief, one saves tons of mind time.
     
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    funny how these bravehearts have a change of heart the second they know playtime is over and the adults have returned lol
     
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    Sorry. You don't have to donate, I didn't

    https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

    Basically yes. A lot of things, like online sales are used to bypass background check laws and bypassing them is how guns get into gangs

    I REALLY don't understand why you are all so against smart guns which would make your weapons much less of an attraction to thieves unless again you want to arm gangs, which arming is a big source of revenue for corrupt gun dealers.
     
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    Well, let's think about that:

    those 30,000 red-cappers, decked out with Trump 2020 flags and all sorts of cool Trump paraphenalia, because he is their G-d, you know, broke into the Capitol Grounds by breaking through the barricades (that breaks the law right there), beat cops with weapons, killed two cops and injured dozens more, busted doors and windows, entered the Capitol Building looking to murder Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi, erected a noose in front of the Capitol, ransacked offices, stole government papers, defecated on the Capitol Building floors, occupied both chambers of Congress and did all of this in an ARMED attempt to stop the ceremonial counting of the electors. That's called an INSURRECTION. We are talking about crimes that will easily bring 20 years jail-time with them. All in the name of Trump. And I will never, ever let anyone forget this, nor will I let anyone try to whitewash this.

    BTW, one ****ed-up MAGA red-hat insurrectionistic domestic terrorist was arrested with machine guns and molotov cocktails (loaded with napalm inside) in his van, parked 1.5 blocks from the Capitol Building. So, yeah, they were armed. They were armed to the teeth.

    It is true that the Capitol Building (and every single government building) is taxpayer financed. DUH! But that does not mean that taxpayers have a right to go destroy government property just because they are mad about something.

    It wasn't just "tragic". It was an armed insurrection. Oh, and the 14th amendment has a remedy for politicians who engage in insurrection, nöööööö.

    So, you keep on enjoying your sweet trumpian wet-dreams and I will stick to the facts.
     
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    So when do you plan to do the same? (I knew you would call him a CT)...it was as predicitable as sun rising in the East.
     
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    only the stupidest of Trump supporters would try to do an armed insurrection now, but it could happen
     
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    what will the stupidest do from now on? how does an exploding pressure cooker diffuse itself?
     
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    crawl back into the darkness like the cockroaches they are
     
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    Oh, we all don't like parasites....common ground we both agree on!
     
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    lol that's why I ask cos they won't, and when you see 1 cockroach there's 50 you don't
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    "biased and misleading TV cameras" ???? So you contend that TV cameramen made up the videos of what was taking place?

    Why would they have to when the brain dead traitorous DOPES filmed themselves committing felonies and treason??

    Did you think THEY made up those videos !!!!


    LOLOLOL...



    :) Hilarious and " making it complicated" ? That would be you....

    WHY would anyone film themselves wearing MEGADOPE hats if they weren't Trump supporters....the FBI doesn't care what kind of Really Stupid hat one wears when they're committing treason and felonies and other horrible crimes..?
     
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    I normally don't watch TV MSM but did so to accommodate a Democratic friend who was staying with me at the time of the Capitol riots. It was primarily CNN and MSNBC talking heads that repeatedly used the term "armed insurrectionists" in an attempt to inflate the severity of the incident.
    While we can debate the degree to which the temporary and partial invasion of the Capitol was an "insurrection", at no time in any of the photos did I see a rioter enter with or display an item that is commonly regarded as a weapon such as a gun or knife.

    As you know, the use of the word "arms" in the 2nd Amendment is commonly understood to mean firearms and not fire-extinguishers, furniture etc. just as "armed robbery" generally means that the robber had a gun

    It is simply my opinion that CNN & MSNBC pundits deliberately mischaracterized the rioters as "armed insurrectionists" to inflate the severity of the incident out of a blatant media bias. Meanwhile the same MSM outlets referred to the violent BLM-Antifa rioters who were armed with firearms and Molotov cocktails as "mainly peaceful protestors".
    It is because of this transparent bias that I rarely rely on TV MSM for accurate representations of newsworthy events.
     
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    You seem to have misunderstood my comment.
    At no point did I attempt to excuse the vandalizing of the Capitol building.
    My comment had more to do with the TV MSM bias in misrepresenting the incident as an "armed insurrection" when no one was armed with anything commonly regarded as an "arm", i.e. firearm.
    Meanwhile, the same MSM outlets who regarded the Portland etc rioters who were armed with guns, Molotov cocktails as "mainly peaceful protesters" deliberately mischaracterized the Capitol rioters as "armed insurrectionists" when no one displayed anything that is commonly regarded as an "arm" as per the 2nd Amendment.

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    What someone else may have had somewhere else means nothing. Please show me an image of any one of the Capitol rioters armed with a firearm. Fire extinguishers and chairs are not "arms".
     
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    Media can make you believe what they want
     
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    Well, hopefully the spectacular failure of the MAGA riot at the Capitol has disillusioned some of the Trump faithful.
    I think they went into it seeing themselves as "saviors" of the country - and woke up the next day to find they had
    become a national clown show with serious legal problems. Reality check indeed.
     
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    You could try to be civil. No need to get so hostile just because we don't agree with you.

    John Sullivan was a Antifa activist who tweeted for many Antifa to show up for the event so that proves you are wrong. Videos show other Antifa was there.
     
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    There is no evidence the majority of people wanted violence. A hand full of Republicans/ Antifa may have wanted violence but not enough for a armed inserrection.
     
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    I remember when the media called peacefull Protestors in Oregon angry militia and used a false picture to make it seem like they were angry but in reality they were just peacefull farmers and workers etc.

    Now the blm protests turned violent and the media said that was for a good cause and supported them mostly. There is a clear bias over the Democrats and left when it comes to the media.

    The summer riots were far worse than the Capitol riot. Hundreds injured or killed including cops, a police station taken over, CHAZ, hundreds if not thousunds of buildings set ablaze.

    I did not see this outrage over the Capitol riot from the left with the summer riots.

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    Big talk, and nothing but talk, IMHO.
     

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