For The Love of Bacon

Discussion in 'Member Casual Chat' started by Moi621, Nov 12, 2017.

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American Bacon, the only real bacon.

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But, bacon is pork
    not turkey, lamb, goat, beef nor bison.

    Try wild hog or boar.
    Y'think?

    Still, what's bacon without the fat?
    I mean consider that loin stuff and ham :flagcanada: calls bacon.

    Imagine Non Fat Ice Cream :eekeyes:

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    Chopped Bacon and Beer Cheddar Sloppy Joe

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    Bacon wrapped Asparagus
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    The only way to eat your veggies!
     
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    My favorite

    Bacon Pancakes and Maple Pecan Syrup
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    ~ Don't forget the infamous Soy "Bacon" :crazy:
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    Nothing can compare to American bacon unless it is home cured bacon straight from the (American) smokehouse.

    For the pork rinds the best you can get are in La.
     
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    First My guns
    then my bacon
    :angered:


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bacon-may-disappear-california-pig-141827828.html

    Bacon may disappear in California
    as pig rules take effect

    . . . At the beginning of next year, California will begin enforcing an animal welfare proposition approved overwhelmingly by voters in 2018 that requires more space for breeding pigs, egg-laying chickens and veal calves. National veal and egg producers are optimistic they can meet the new standards, but only 4% of hog operations now comply with the new rules. Unless the courts intervene or the state temporarily allows non-compliant meat to be sold in the state, California will lose almost all of its pork supply, much of which comes from Iowa, and pork producers will face higher costs to regain a key market. . .


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    Democracy is not Heaven



    Moi :oldman:

    Got FREEDOM
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    At work last night, someone left their uneaten take out breakfast on a the little food prep table I must use at 4am.....(this was 10 pm)

    So since they obviously did not want it (NOT where you leave it) I looked before tossing it.....Several soggy pancakes.....but 6 glorious slices of bacon! I tossed the pancakes and slapped those heavenly slabs of belly fat in the oven and warmed em up and ate em all up, by by gone!
     
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    This has to be a back door way of appeasing Muslims.
     
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    Intensive piggeries are cruel places.
    Won’t be a bad thing to pay for humanely raised pigs.
     
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    California ban upheld by idiot judge
    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE INTERSTATE TRADE
    GUARANTEE of THE :flagus: Constitution ?
    The commerce clause has traditionally been interpreted both as a grant of positive authority to Congress and as an implied prohibition of state laws and regulations that interfere with or discriminate against interstate commerce



    We The :flagus: :salute:
    got lawyered out, again.

    https://news.yahoo.com/lifestyle/no-california-isnt-banning-bacon-165042645.html

    Last week, the United States Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled against the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) and the National Pork Producers Council (NPPC) in their latest attempt to prevent California's Proposition 12 from taking effect next January 1. The legislation establishes a minimum space requirement for breeding pigs, calves raised for veal, and egg-laying hens, and bans the sale of eggs, pork, and veal from producers who do not comply with those minimum space requirements.

    The AFBF and NPPC have opposed the measure, which is also known as the Farm Animal Confinement Initiative, because they believe it violates the Interstate Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution by regulating out-of-state [meat and egg] production, requiring out-of-state producers to "submit to California's mandated production methods or lose access to California's large market."

    U.S. Circuit Judge Sandra S. Ikuta disagreed. "It is undisputed that Proposition 12 is neither a price-control nor price-affirmation statute, as it neither dictates the price of pork products nor ties the price of pork products sold in California to out-of-state prices," she wrote in her decision, according to Courthouse News. (In June, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a separate case challenging the constitutionality of the law.)

    "The 9th Circuit's unanimous decision comes on the heels of the Supreme Court's recent rejection of a separate meat industry challenge to Proposition 12," Rebecca Cary, a senior staff attorney at the Humane Society of the United States, said after the court's ruling. "It affirms yet again what the meat industry should hear loud and clear by now: that states have the right to pass laws that reject cruel products and protect their citizens' health and safety."



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    Would humanely raised farm animals really affect your freedom?
     
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    Only if it denies me, BACON !



    Also fresh pork meat is
    inexpensive compared to . . . meat.

    And we got lots of Latinos & Asians who
    do love their pork. At affordable prices.




    AND
    Constitutionally, States are forbidden from
    restricting commerce between States.
    < scroll up >

    And Be Sure To Label, "Humanely Raised"
    On pork products that apply.
    The consumer made the "drift" in chicken farming




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    If customers could see how pigs are raised and treated it would put them off any pork products. Pigs are more intelligent than dogs and it reflects badly on us to accept intensive piggeries.
    Ps. That judge was very specific about whether or not prices were fixed by the proposed regulation.
     
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    At the same time, the mass production of any food product is gross. I went to a dairy farm to get a truckload of free manure as food for a worm farm which themselves were at a later date to be boxed and shipped as food and bait. The stench and flies at the dairy farm was intolerable. It is also worth noting that if we did not eat domestic animals such as swine and cattle, they would cease to exist in short order. As a lifelong hunter and fisherman, I know first hand that even in the best of circumstance, the killing and butchering of any animal is the visitation of violence, not only upon the creature, but upon our own spirit. A violence to which one must harden ones resolve to tolerate. And in the end, there is no kind way to eat without killing. Or grow vegetables without tilling and gouging the earth. Or build without plundering natures resources. It is all a thing to which we are constrained to steel ourselves against. And come to face with our own savagery, even in our ivory towers, far and away removed. I guess my point is that we should beware that we do not visit our self righteousness upon our fellow man and overburden them with a heavy labor which we ourselves do not touch but to consume their givings like leisure Gods while they groan in mass under the press of our feet. And thus show no honor to our fellow man whom we require to show honor to the pigs we eat.
     
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    Nicely stated.
     
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    That being said there is a way to grow our food in a manner that causes the least harm. You are not going to eat without something dying. And raising pigs has a low profit margin. When I raised mine for home eating. I gave them some running room. They made natural nests for birthing. I also fed them acorns.....puts the weight on. And all kinds of fresh and not so fresh produce. They had the best taste ever. But no fun to have butchered.
     
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    What does our nature require? I mean, how should we proceed? I tried to be as kind as possible to my pigs but you really can't hurt them much. I fed them everything. They had fresh water and a place to Waller. They tasted good.
     
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    A gestation crate.
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    “Intensive pig farming, also known as pig factory farming, is the primary method of pig production, in which grower pigs are housed indoors in group-housing or straw-lined sheds, whilst pregnant sows are housed in gestation crates or pens and give birth in farrowing crates.

    The use of gestation crates for pregnant sows has lowered birth production costs; however, this practice has led to more significant animal cruelty. Many of the world's largest producers of pigs (US, China, and Mexico) use gestation crates. The European Union has banned the use of gestation crates after the fourth week of pregnancy.[1] Intensive pig farmers often cut off tails, testes or teeth of pigs without anaesthetic.[2]

    The environmental impacts of pig farming include problems posed to drinking water and algal bloom events.[3][4]
     
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    Your pigs had a good life before being slaughtered unlike a pig in a piggery.
     
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    I still feel guilty. I owed them a good life.
     
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    You clearly have never farrowed sows, nor had to bury all the baby pigs she laid on and crushed. That is why the pens are built the way they are, so that mom doesn't crush her young.
     
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    No, I haven’t and I still don’t think that’s a good reason for gestation pens.
     

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