Should companies be allowed to disassociate themselves from other companies like Parler?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Because they're filthy, rotten, pieces of human waste, who would have done it REGARDLESS of what Trump said. Even if Trump didn't tell them to go to the Capitol building, they would have gone and broke in. Why? Because they're rotten, pieces of human waste. Simple!
     
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    without Trump's lies, they would not of, they have told us why they did it
     
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    Yeah that's fair, but I'm talking about his speech right before the riot. If he didn't do that speech, but the riot still happened, you don't actually think that the Dems would have impeached him do you?
     
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    it's not just about the speech, it's his actions since he lost the election
     
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    If a company claims that it is a platform then no, they should not be allowed to disassociate themselves based on politics. And that is all that this is about. Politics. Google Play allows Twitter and you could find all sorts of violent rhetoric on twitter. From both sides mind you. Yet they haven't banned twitter. Maybe, MAYBE if they had treated Twitter et al the same as they did Parler then I might believe them when they give their excuse. As it stands its all about the politics. And no side should be de-platformed based on their politics. That goes against the very reason that we banned the government from interfering with speech in the first place.
     
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    Yes, his actions which have been bad, but again, if he didn't do that speech, but the riot still happened, you don't actually think that the Dems would have impeached him do you?
     
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    had he not of invited them there that day and not of given the speech - no, as there would have been no storming of the capital
     
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    Yes. They've already stated that this impeachment is not for removal, but to keep him from running for President again.
     
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    Who said that?
     
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    Why are you making such a WILD assumption? Why do you think that filthy, rotten, pieces of human waste, need to be TOLD to be violent?
     
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    Look in any thread about the impeachment.
     
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    I thought that you meant the official Democrat position. NO WAY would they admit that they impeached Trump in order to keep him from running for President again.
     
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    Oh god no, no politician would ever admit to such. They'd expose themselves for what they are if they did that.
     
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    Even if that's why the Democrats impeached him, why does this mean that they would have impeached him if he didn't do that speech, but the riot still happened?
     
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    In order to "justify" the impeachment both the MSM and politicians have used the excuse that if Trump hadn't challenged the election results, saying that it was stolen and that fraud happened, then people would not have rioted. They use words out of context that he said (and supposedly said) as examples. "storm the capitol" (never said by Trump that I have seen, but even if he did say it "storm" can simply mean to turn out en masse, not "lets riot") "wild time" (he did say, but I for one have never heard those two words used to describe inciting riots or even violence period... its usually said as in "we're going to have a hell of a lot of fun/party") are both phrases that is attributed to Trump as examples of "what Trump really meant", while they assign what he meant.

    I could go on but you get the picture.
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20, you're the one making a wild assumptions based on things that did not happen, we all know what DID happen
     
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    Yeah, but they key was Trump's speech right before the riots, where he repeated that the election was stolen. There's no way that they would have impeached if it wasn't for that speech. Although, they sure as hell would have said that he was responsible for promoting the lie and said that this is what led to the riots, but I seriously doubt that they would have impeached.
     
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    What assumption do you think I'm making?
     
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    THIS is an assumption.
     
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    had he not of invited them there, they would not of been there, we saw the video of them saying as much in the act of their crimes

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    I am not sure why a foreigner is defending Trump or assuming things would have still happened in America the same way even if Trump had not done what he did

    just doesn't make sense to me

    anyways, Trump is gone, he was impeached, he is history, the American people won
     
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    What video?
     
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    Well you're assuming that things would NOT have still happened in America the same way even if Trump had not done what he did. So why are you allowed to assume but I'm not?

    What did impeachment achieve?
     
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    Everything he said in that speech was the same thing that he had been saying for months. Actually years if you want to count his claim about illegal immigrants voting back in 2016. He also encouraged people to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. So no, it wasn't key. If it had been then they wouldn't have had to pull from other things that he had said over the past several months. The fact that they are shows that they'd already decided to impeach him again. That and they HAD already talked about impeaching him a 2nd time even before the election going all the way back to last January after the first impeachment failed to produce any results.

    Think about it, they had the articles of impeachment already written up the same time that they were demanding Pence use the 25th Amendment. (something he couldn't do legally btw as it requires that the president be incapacitated). They impeached Trump for a 2nd time on the 13th. The riot happened on the 6th. That is only 5 working days. 7 Days total. 6 days if you don't count the 6th. Are you really going to believe that they wrote up those articles of impeachment in that amount of time? No part of Congress works that fast. Look how long it took them just to approve Bush going to war with Iraq when everyone believed that they were at fault and had weapons of mass destruction. And that was after 9/11 happened. It wasn't until October 2002 that Congress authorized Bush to go to war with Iraq. Yet it took Dems a week to impeach Trump for the 2nd time. And I'd challenge anyone to show at any time where any part of Congress has worked as fast as they did with Trumps 2nd impeachment. Hell, they couldn't even work that fast for devastation caused by hurricanes (its one reason why they made FEMA so long ago, because they knew they couldn't react fast).
     
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    Well I was thinking that the key was him encouraging them to go to the Capitol Building, telling them to be "strong." This part:

    "We're going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol. And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong."


    So you think that if there was no riot, they would have impeached? The riot was totally irrelevant?

    It requires that the president be incapacitated? What about David Palmer?

    Well it was only one single article wasn't it?
     

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