Why did Jesus curse the fig tree?

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  1. trevorw2539

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    Which Isaiah? The book has several writers. I believe it was written as history in the Babylonian exile. Scribes getting together to compile the book. You do realise that it was a complete book. No chapters or verses. They were added a millenia later. By a catholic priest I believe. So no, I don't believe Cyrus name was given to Isaiah by Jahweh. . As Cyrus said it was his god Marduk that gave him his instructions to let, not just the Jews but all captives, return to their own lands.
    Cyrus has gone down in history as one of the most benevolent conquerors of all time, allowing his subjects to live—and worship—as they pleased. And i don't believe in reincarnation. There's no evidence in the Bible for such - except what men want to believe.

    As you can see by the bold - I don't believe in prophesy. The idea of Jesus the Jewish preacher being prophesied centuries before his appearance is ludicrous and nonsensical. A 'prophecy' would only be of value at the time - not 600 years in the future.
     
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    My understanding of what was shown to near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai.....
    is that after the fig tree was cursed by Jesus.... it was cut down.... and became the
    cross on which he was crucified. After Adam and Eve noticed that they were naked... they covered themselves
    with what was closest to them....... fig leaves! This is somehow symbolic of religion...... without the Holy Spirit.....
    like the fig tree that Jesus cursed it produces no fruit.
     
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    it was not producing figs.
     
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    Why do you believe so much rubbish Dennis. Most of it is simply someones dreamed up ideas - usually a Catholic dreamer. The fig tree Jesus supposedly cursed would not have been able to be used for his cross in such a short time. Anyway, didn't Jesus curse it not to produce fruit in future. And how does anyone know what trees were in the mythical garden of Eden? Every so often the Catholic church produse a series of stone steps for people to walk up, or climb on their knees, telling them that these steps are the ones taken from the hill on which Jesus was Crucified. Only the deluded really believe it. The hundreds of thousands of 'holy relics' bones of 'saints and disciples', thorns from the crown of Jesus, nails and wood from the cross. We could make hundreds of crosses, hundreds of saints, hundreds of crowns and crosses.
     
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    It probably pricked him?
    I don't know, I don't know if it's got spikes?
    Did he somehow get hurt trying to climb or kick one one day?
    I mean, why else would you curse a tree?
    Jesus wasn't above profanity when he stubbed his toe I guess.
     
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    Perhaps this same idea can be applied also as....people are seeing things based on their own subconscious ideas of what....everything is.
    ....it has been said that dreams during sleep are not all that much different than what is experienced while awake.
     
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    There is no denying the fact that our life up until the time of a near death experience... sure does seem to have an effect on how the NDE goes....... that is true!

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/life-review.html

     
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    Yes.

    The rest of the story is that there is NO evidence that there is any input into a a dream or NDE OTHER than life exerience to the point of the dream.
     
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    In my opinion the surge in IQ and other emotional, spiritual and mental gifts indicate that a NDE is indeed an interaction with life forms that exist in higher invisible dimensions that function at vastly higher levels of energy...... and higher levels of vibration than we do at this time.


    Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200910/bright-lights-big-mystery?page=4


    Our vibrational level is important somehow????


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    I see no evidence of "IQ surge".

    Our brains are easily shown to be operating when we are not conscious. So, new ideas, insights, and other such results are certainly possible.
     
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    Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai says that his IQ before his near death experience in 1992 was 106 but afterward 159.

    Bruce F. MacDonald had an even more extreme surge in IQ.

    Near death experiencer Robert Mendelson was given a plan for peace in the Middle East during and after his NDE.


    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.


    https://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/scientific-discoveries-come-from-ndes.html

     
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    Yes, it's not hard to find people who say they figured out some way of making their IQ zoom - often with a product you may buy so your IQ can zoom, too.

    Such claims are not to be believed. In fact the whole field of IQ measurement is questionable.
     
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    there is no God, only those that believe there is
     
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    "God"... is a word.... words need to be defined.....

    how much of "God" is actually WITHIN each human..... will shock us once we are shown about this......



    The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


     

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