Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Greatest I am, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, as well as all the other Abrahamic cults. Christians, Jews etc.

    I do give higher marks for the Jews. They were well on their way to perfection in how they viewed the sexes before Christianity ruined the ideology and theology.

    Eve was the heroin of Eden before Christianity turned the Jewish Original Virtue concept into the Christian Original sin concept that most know, and love, for promoting misogyny.

    Regards
    DL
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So Muslims are a cult? And Jews a cult?
     
  3. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nonsense... How is telling someone who is gay they are sinners if they act out on their impulsive desires being a traitor? That's a looney Pelosi statement. Did you plagiarize that one too from Nancy? You have your rights to an opinion and so does any Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhaist and any other religious person. Churches are private businesses and thus can exclude others just like Twitter, Amazon, Facebook and Google have done to conservative groups. Can't have it both ways.
    If Catholics or LDS want to limit who can be a member of the Priesthood then that's there business as they are private businesses. It's none of your business.

    As far as what God decides is up to him. This is his Universe, not yours. God's ways are not man's ways and vice versa. Again, we have separation of Church and State. It's funny how libs demand that separation when it benefits them. But, when it doesn't, they ignore it.
     
  4. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are tribal. Religions are tribes.

    All religions have pagan roots and Christianity is called orthodox and somehow more respected, even as vile as they are, by the majority that was pruned after the inquisitions and jihads.

    If you wish to divide the what, 3,000 Christian cults and creeds from the orthodox, then there is no orthodox. The same applies to the what, 70 Muslim creeds/cults/call them whatever you want.

    I see the evil and damage they do and that is what is important to me. Not their label.

    Regards
    DL
     
  5. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who are you or anyone else to question the natures of those god or nature creates?

    Who are you to put sex above love as a value and try to have us adapt to that immoral stance?

    How is lying to someone who is gay, and calling them sinners, you doing unto others?

    Tell us why you value sex above love?

    Regards
    DL
     
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,396
    Likes Received:
    6,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A person with morals for starters.
     
  7. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not if you are a G D homophobe who discriminates without a just cause.

    Love, as a desire and human trait, is a stronger than sex.

    Try to find some.

    Regards
    DL
     
  8. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,176
    Likes Received:
    1,075
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I guess that is often the criticism against virtue signalling, it appeals only to people who already agree, while alienating those who might actually be in a position to change anything.
     
    WillReadmore likes this.
  9. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I cannot help but alienate myself from filth.

    Would you prefer I lie to the immoral homophobes and misogynous?

    Do not give me some catch more with sugar B S.

    Many do, while not offering a method to replace calling a holes, a holes, in a nice way.

    Regards
    DL
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2021
  10. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,359
    Likes Received:
    11,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You prove a point I made in another post, i.e., progressive liberalism is a religion. I would say it appears to be your religion -- with sin being defined by whoever is the originator of progressive talking points that seem to spew out in a hierarchical top-down manner. Who is at the top? Maybe you can tell me. I don't believe in Lucifer, but with the advent of the modern day liberal I am starting to wonder.

    My thoughts -- just because we have separation of church and state does not mean the state becomes a valid religion, unless one is totally brainwashed.

    Be advised your "law of the land" is subordinate to the laws of nature. Nothing you can do to change that fact.
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  11. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,176
    Likes Received:
    1,075
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just want to see if you're fundamentally more concerned with making your stance known or improving the situation.
     
  12. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,403
    Likes Received:
    7,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope. I pay zero attention to the 'faith'. People are responsible for what they say and to what end and what they do. Don't give a damn about Leviticus, I care about who quotes what scriptures, and why. It is the intent behind the living blood flowing lip and tongue tissues that make those sounds we know as words, that matters to me. When religion is used to promote a good collective or individual value or result, I give the credit to the person who chooses use it thus. I give the blame to the person who chooses to use religion to promote a bad collective or individual value or result.
     
  13. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    27,908
    Likes Received:
    21,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Traitors to liberty, sure, but no more so than those seeking to ban firearms or weed. Not traitors to country though, so long as we value free speech.
     
    roorooroo and Greatest I am like this.
  14. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Make sure you shine your Captain Coward badge.

    Strange though, given the evidence, that you would think that fathers would not fight to save their young.

    You must like the fact that Yahweh is infanticidal. Is that why you adore that vole piece of garbage?

    Regards
    DL
     
  15. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Both.

    Regards
    DL
     
  16. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What can I say to such blindness and lack of care for others.

    Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

    Please get back to me with your conclusion.

    Martin Niemöller
    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Regards
    DL
     
  17. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The U.S. has shown about 4 years ago, that it has allowed freedom of speech to pollute the airwaves and political arena with lies.

    When facts and truth no longer matter, there is no worthy freedom of speech.

    Regards
    DL
     
    gabmux likes this.
  18. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,359
    Likes Received:
    11,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dude. Your post is clueless. If you had read any of my posts here you would know that I consider Yahweh to be a fairy tale. With respect to references to a Captain Coward Badge, fathers fighting for their young, what the [deleted] are you talking about?

    Just like primitive people invented religion in the past to address a number of psychological needs and also to control society, modern day liberals have turned their politics into a religion for the same reason. Your politics is a religion. Face the facts and don't be offended because your religion has been questioned.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2021
    roorooroo likes this.
  19. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    59,767
    Likes Received:
    16,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The problem with your approach is that you are focused on your own selfrighteousness and not even slightly interested in improving anything.
     
  20. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    59,767
    Likes Received:
    16,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, the problem is the discrimination and violence.

    Like the problem with white supremacists, too many religious zealots would like to use their religious views as justification for assaults of various kinds on those who are not like themselves.
     
  21. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,403
    Likes Received:
    7,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I pay a lot of attention to what people do or say. I pay no heed to literature written hundreds of years ago that people want to credit or blame for their choices. Those words on the page may inspire people to make good choices or bad ones depending on what they do with them, and how they allow those words to affect or influence them. I suspect if those centuries old words did not radicalize a terrorist , that person would probably find other words to radicalize behind instead.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2021
  22. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    27,908
    Likes Received:
    21,218
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It sounds like you don't value freedom of speech...
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2021
    Kokomojojo likes this.
  23. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ??

    Where was my religion, Gnostic Christianity, questioned?

    As to facts, if Christianity had any, they would not have to rely on their faith of fools.

    Regards
    DL
     
  24. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    6,353
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You hear wrong.

    I just do not like the freedom to lie.

    Regards
    DL
     
    gabmux likes this.
  25. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 17, 2013
    Messages:
    3,721
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But a church (literally a bunch of people) can convince/sway the government into punishing someone....
    isn't that exactly what happened to your guy Jesus?
     

Share This Page