Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the same way that your own politics is a cult...."face the facts"...and don't be offended because your cult has been questioned.
     
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    Theres no question! lol

    Gnostic Christian – A Blatant Oxymoron
    I have a confused commenter who claims to be a “gnostic Christian.”
    Many times I have pointed out to him that “gnostic-Christian” is an oxymoron because there is a contradiction with gnosticism holding that the creator God of the Old testament, Yahweh, is the evil demiurge. Astoundingly, this “gnostic” wants to have his cake and eat it too because he will argue that he follows Jesus while still calling Yahweh the evil demiurge.
    https://www.logosapologia.org/gnostic-christian-a-blatant-oxymoron/


    now doesnt that sound familiar!
    You've proven no lie, if you cant prove it, its not a lie, nice try though.

    Does your gnostic christianity teach that
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    FYI. I am a registered Independent. I vote based on issues. I don't like either party. My #1 issue is the 2nd Amendment so I probably vote for more Republicans, but living in WV many Democrats support the 2nd Amendment and they according get my vote. I also vote for local Democrats based on environmental issues. Not sure how that makes me part of a cult.

    To me "group think", the robot-like reciting of talking points, a centralized control, intellectual limitation, and shunning, etc. are hallmarks of a cult. So who does that apply to?
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Only the illiterate will spot only one Jesus archetype in the scriptures.

    Most only know the Roman created Jesus. The esoteric Jesus is the one we try to emulate and use as a mantra.

    Doing as you rightfully say we do is harder these days thanks to the brain dead who read these myths as reality. Supernatural and mythos as reality believers need to learn how to think.

    Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

    You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

    The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

    In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

    That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

    Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

    Strange that you do not prefer the son and adore the genocidal satanic father.

    Sure, they are both genocidal, think Armageddon, but we might have some chance of talking Jesus out of it while Yahweh is too satanic to even argue with. Right?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tRump is a cult leader...nothing less.
    Voting for the likes of him just because you think he is soft on gun control
    doesn't really let you off the hook when he and his gun nuts (not you) try to forcefully obstruct government procedure.
    The "one issue" voting practice is dangerous. That should be clear to everyone by now.
     
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    You don't just vote for gun rights in your state.

    You vote to prevent my state from making the public safety decisions that we see as important here.

    And, I don't see any justification for that other than that you are a gun cult member.
     
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    A bunch of atheist ideologists can and do sway governments into punishing logical and reasonable persons. A WOK-fascist group is pushing a buffoon President to defy biological and DNA science with respect to gender. So now, females are again a second class group who can be beaten and molested by males in sports and shower rooms because of what a male "feels" like on any given day. Down goes Title IX. And, a small bunch of radical Democrats are turning America into a 3rd world country. None of that is protected by the Constitution. But, religious freedom and expression is. By the way, it was Rome's decision on crucifying Christ. Not the Jews.
     
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    Jewish myth, Jewish benefits, which is why, if you read your myth, the Jews took the death upon their own heads, as scriptures clearly state.

    Rome preferred to wipe it's hands of the whole thing. Which is shown in scriptures.

    You would have the benefits, if Jesus had not failed the prophesy he wanted to fulfill, go to power Rome instead of Israel.

    How silly.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Didn't Rome try to stay out of the whole ordeal....but was pressed into it by the mob of Jews?
    Why are you trying to minimize the fact that the religious leaders were out to get Jesus any way they could.
     
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    I don't want to debate gun control in a post on religion but I have to respond with one reply:

    1. I am a lot more concerned with my safety than your safety and make my decisions accordingly.

    2. You probably consider the people who wrote our Constitution to be cult members. If you people don't like the 2nd Amendment, then push for a repeal.

    3. Almost 20 million guns have been sold in the first six months of 2020. Due to current demand guns and ammo are more or less currently unavailable in the US. You cannot present a well reasoned argument that that this great demand is based on a cult. FYI, the most rapid growing demographic for new gun owners is black women. If you don't support their 2nd Amendment rights you are likely a racist and a sexist.
     
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    The Roman's had no reason to follow the leaders of the Jews in their decisions. Cesar was god to them. They didn't take their orders from the Jews. Jesus didn't deny that He is the Son of God. Pilot made the decision. It was all upon him.
     
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    Can you blame Black folks from wanting to protect themselves from crazy white folks?
    Can't always rely on cops to protect them...so what else are they supposed to do?
     
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    The Romans in charge there were afraid of the Jew mob turning into a riot...and didn't want to look bad if Cesar found out they could not control their region.

    They gave the Jew mob a choice as to who got hanged....
    and who did your Jewish pals choose?
     
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    Then vote for YOUR safety and keep your hands off of mine.
    The 2nd amendment is about well ordered militias.
    Yes - it's totally out of control.

    But, that doesn't mean that YOU have any business ordering how MY state or city may manage this threat.
     
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    Nonsense! The Romans had no problem handling the mobs. I'm sure there was corruption within the Romans taking bribes from the Jews. But, it was all Rome's decisions to kill dissenters. Oh, the Sadducees wanted to get rid of the Lord for sure. For various reasons. But, man Jews followed Jesus. It was the Romans. 100%.
     
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    That was all true. But, when Jesus did not deny who he was, he was also a threat to the Romans. Even though he didn't come to teach the Romans. So, Pilate made is play and made the decision. Washing his hands did nothing to take away his decision when he knew Jesus had really done nothing wrong. For centuries, the Catholic Church made statements against Jews that cause others to kill them over the centuries and enslave them. The Church finally took those things out of their teachings recently. But, to blame the Jews is just more anti-zionist facist statements.
     
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    They gave the Jew mob a choice as to who got hanged....
    and who did your Jewish pals choose?
    I'd say that makes it the Jews. 100%
     
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    You must be Catholic and didn't get the memo to stop attacking Jews...It was the Romans!
     
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    I don't recall seeing any "memo's" in the Bible....

    "According to the gospels, it was customary for the Romans to release a Jewish prisoner during the Passover festival.
    The Roman governor Pontius Pilate tried to use this custom as an excuse to release Jesus.
    But a crowd in the courtyard demanded that a prisoner named Barabbas be freed instead, and Pilate eventually gave in to the pressure.
    Thus Barabbas was released, and Jesus was crucified."
     
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    Before you talk about a militia maybe you should review the USC definition of a militia.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246#:~:text=The militia of the United States consists of,States who are members of the National Guard.

    (a)
    The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b)The classes of the militia are—
    (1)
    the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2)
    the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
     
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    thats anyone who can carry arms and point it in the right direction, those 'in' jail excepted.
     
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    Personally, I strongly support Black people exercising their 2nd Amendment Constitutional rights.
     
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    Our two well regulated militias do not require the public to have weapons of any kind.

    Furthermore, such militias are not in ANY WAY suported by having civilians carry weapons whereever they go. Having weapons stay at home FULLY satisfies the intent of the second amendment.

    Our founders showed NO desire to have civilians carrying weapons into government meetings, grocery stores, CONGRESS, etc.
     
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    Exactly - the militia that is NOT well regulated.

    But, the second amendment is about the well regulated militia.
     
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    Never had any doubts at all about that thought
     

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