Renewable Energy Surpasses Fossil Fuel in Europe in 2020

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats not what I was responding to......you weren't even WHO I was responding to.
     
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    You were literally responding to a post about illegals and the census.. If you want private conversations used PM.. If you insult posters and then not have a clue what you are talking about it someone might point it out. In this case it was yours truly.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Pickups can be electric, and electric trucks accelerate faster and tow more since they start under full torque and don't have transmission losses
     
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    The statement objected to was the one about conrol of the Senate, where two TINY states can cancel the will of two states with relatively enormous populations - making it about as lopsided as one could possibley do so.

    But now you think EO's have to pass congress?

    And yes, I'm sure we're all aware that Trump and his white supremacist buddies were highly innterested in making the census about white people.
     
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    I never said EO's went through Congress unless you think Biden is Congress? Care to make up more ****?

    So more slurs at the end.. How ... nice...

    Expected of course.

    Hint.. Legal is not a race neither is illegal....


    Btw what "claim" was i making?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh FFS. YOU jumped in on a reply that wasn't to you, and made an assertion that was not true because you didn’t know what I was responding to, you got called out and NOW you want me to use a PM ?

    Have a nice day......
     
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    Unlike Europe, we have night time here. renewable energy is still dependent on other forms of traditional energy. 38% doesn't cover 100% of the day or 365 days of a year. Even California ran into the problem this past year of not being able to pull enough energy from out of state suppliers on peak demand days to satisfy its energy needs so they had to resort to rolling blackouts.
     
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    (I'll assume your comment about night time in Europe is a joke.)

    =>First, night time is not even SLIGHTLY a problem that renewable energy is running up against here or in Europe.

    Yes, 100% wind or solar would not work well, but that has NEVER been stated as a goal. The only time you hear that argument about night time is when someone invested in fossil fuel doesn't mind telling a blatant lie.

    =>The shortage in CA had nothing to do with fuel type. It had to do with CA needing more electricity to solve an immediate need.

    I know it's a knee jerk reaction to think that CA must be all solar, or something. But, that's just a feature of partisan politics and the choice to make comments while remaining ignorant.
     
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    I read that this morning too :) Then again I believe it was authored for leftist, then, the numbers make perfect sense!
     
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    Hell, as an American you have the funding and access to everything you need to go off grid!

    Make us Proud, do it yourself, let us know how great it is..
     
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    Of course they are not running up against night time as a problem because they cannot supply 24/7 power. I didn't say a word about california being "all solar" and their problems have everything to do with fuel types when they are dismantling the suppliers of standby energy because of their fuel type. Californians are still as dependent on out of state energy as they would be if that energy was created in state. The are exporting their pollution. No more. No less.
     
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    Electricity wise, we do have the necessary tech for homes to go off the grid.

    Easier than that, one can be on the grid, but be a net winner, using the grid when needed, but putting elecriciy back on the grid when not in heavy use. Of course, one can do better than that, depending on usage factors.

    Today, there are companies that will install solar electric on your home if you will share the cost benefit with them.

    Try THAT with gas! Or, nuclear - lol!

    So, YES - it would be great if more people stepped back from the grid in that way.
     
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    So you one of those "Preaching to the choir" guys..

    Um ya I know bro, make us proud!
     
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    Solar power stations at al Noor in Morocco and in China are able to run most of the night. The al Noor plant uses liquid sodium to transfer heat from the solar field to the boilers, and liquid sodium retains a huge amount of heat after the sun goes down.

    Also, no single power source has to run all night - or all day, outside of those that have a super long start-up sequence, such as coal. Every location is better off with a reasonable mix of power sources. We could meet global warming reductions without cutting out oil, nuclear, hydro, for example.
    Yes, CA imports electricity. And, other stated import food, technology, etc. from CA.

    If you think there was a facility that was inappropriately dismantled, then identify it.
     
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    Did that post make sense to you?
     
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    Yeah, well it's all part of the "build back better" globalist program so the elites can cash in big time.... I believe this "milking of the the renewable cow" started with Bill Clinton

    These corrupt criminals are back in charge with Biden, the bring in laws to benefit their own interests
     
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    What excuse would you give for Iowa to reject wind power?
     
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    Oh you poor soul. You don’t know how Congressional seats work and their relation to population and the census. I was wondering why you kept talking about the Senate and ignoring why I even posted in the first place. Congress dear boy. Congressional representatives determined by population which INCLUDES ILLEGALS. Sorry about your ignorance on this matter or your deliberate attempt to twist the conversation into a completely different subject to try to prove something. So sorry. So so sorry.
     
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    Are you prepared to pay twice as much for electrical service?
     
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    Aka I'm still right.. Thanks buddy.. Have a nice day.
     
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    Yup all he does is bitch and slur people because of his own lack of knowledge.
     
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    those are government run socialist countries, they do not have a market.

    America is the only capitalist country and it uses fossil fuel energy.
     
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    there is enough untapped fossil fuel for 200 years, other energy sources create government dependence.
     
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    You ignorance of the entire process renders your entire point MUTE. The senate, of which last year the “majority party” actually represented 20 million LESS people proves my point. You claiming that “illegals” voting for dems in the house means NOTHING if they are overridden by the senate. JFC, why do you keep leaving that part out ? Oh wait... I know.....cause it shows your OP was BS.

    Have a nice day
     
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    I was talking Congress the entire time. Never mentioned Senate because population doesn’t impact Senate seats like you said. Dems fighting to keep citizenship off the census, while enacting laws to lure them to sanctuary cities/states, insures high illegal populations in those Blue states, which benefits their ability to vote through Congress. YOU mentioned Senate to try to “get me”. But You got yourself.

    And sorry. But it’s Moot. Not mute. That’s not a typo. That’s amateur hour. I know what I’m dealing with now. A teenager or an uneducated adult. Have a nice night.
     
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