Biden to impose South Africa travel ban to combat new COVID-19 variant

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Trump admin called it a Muslim ban before they did it, that is what makes it a Muslim ban

    If Biden said he was gonna create a Christian ban, then banned people from Christian majority countries for any other reason, it would be a Christian ban

    North Korea is not Atheist, they believe Kim is their God, that makes them theists, just like Christians and Muslims
     
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    Difference is, the GOP won't call him racist for doing it, because they're scared of the blowback...

    They're spineless.
     
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    No.
    If Trump implemented a “Muslim ban”, there would be a document somewhere that literally directs embassy employees to deny visas to all Muslims, regardless of where they were coming from.
    The ban that was implemented is that country-specific ban, not a ban against a grouping label that spills way outside of that country’s borders.

    Wrong.
    The ban would be that country-specific ban. As long as Christians from other countries can come in, that ban cannot be a “Christian ban”.

    North Korea is an atheist state. You are confusing the cult of personality with a religion. I was born in USSR and remember seeing slogans everywhere with statement “Lenin Lives”. Everyone understood that Lenin was biologically dead and the slogan meant “Lenin’s ideas live”. Some of the cultish Korean slogans are probably misunderstood by foreigners in similar fashion.
     
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    Biden must have destroyed Trump's Muslim Ban promise and replaced it with the paperwork where the Joe campaign promised last year to cure cancer if elected. :roflol:

    At least we knew that Trump was simply talking about high scrutiny on countries with out of control ISIS regimes, increasing background checks and lowering the number of entries to manageable levels to do so.

    I'd like to see how Joe even partially "cures cancer".
     
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    nope, North Korea is a theist nation, they believe in a God just like Christians and Muslims do, just theirs is alive and waling the earth

    Trump called it a Muslim ban, thus it is, regardless his reasons stated after the fact - can't undo his words
     
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    They're just not stupid enough to gaslight the public with falsehood propaganda or tell The Big Lies to the public just for votes.
     
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    So does this make China Joe "Racist", or that only works when it is Trump making travel bans?
     
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    North Korea has a very high literacy rate. And, unlike in many Muslim countries, their education is packed with real sciences. I’d bet my paycheck that the quality of their school curriculum is higher than that of many inner city schools in the US.

    But it’s not a Muslim ban. If you have a group (Muslims) that includes populations from many subgroups (countries), then the banishment of one or several subgroups cannot be called a ban on entire group.
    I get it, you believe that we had a Muslim ban. No matter how illogical it is and how much logical gymnastics you need to go through to justify it, you still want to believe in this myth. Just admit it to yourself and move on.
     
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    So what's Joe gonna do about this?

    The U.S. now has its very own COVID-19 variant and scientists believe the burgeoning strain is likely linked to the surge in cases in Los Angeles County.

    Two independent research groups discovered the strain in California while seeking the more contagious, possible more deadly, British variant in the state. Although the researchers found the UK strain ― B.1.1.7 ― in scattered cases in Los Angeles, San Diego and San Bernardino counties, they weren’t expecting to discover a homegrown variant.

    The California variant ― CAL.20C - was barely detectable in early October, researchers from Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles said. But by late December, it accounted for 24% of virus samples taken from southern California patients and about 36% of tested Los Angeles samples.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_600e5312c5b6d64153ad2495/amp
     
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    I have an idea! Let’s ban the US from the US! And put our lockdowns on a lockdown!
     
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    Quarantine California! Ban all travel from there! This is a war, danmit!!
     
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    I have no interest in your bridge. I live in a desert.

    You are most welcome.
     
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    I don't think he can cure cancer, but at least he would pretend to care if his citizens are stricken with it. That alone would be miles more than what the last guy did with the current global pandemic.

    According to Trump, he destroyed and decimated ISIS. So why are his supporters angry to let innocent Muslims back to our Country now that Trump single handedly ended the ISIS threat according to him, of course.
     
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    We finally have a requirement for a negative covid test to enter the country and a 14 day quarantine period. That's what.
     
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    But, but, but that is what he said. He Promised to cure cancer! Now, he must be held strictly to every single word he said on the campaign trail.

     
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    Well not that it shocks anyone but Biden is genuinely a racist.
    **** Biden

    democrats caused hundreds of thousands of deaths in primarily their areas because of their failure. Now Biden is being racist on top of the deaths his party caused.
     
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    doesn't matter, the Trump admin called it a Muslim ban, the fact that he did not ban 100% of Muslims does not change anything

    I disagree that North Korea has a higher literacy than the USA, Trump did not harm the education system that much
     
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    We have an ax to grind because it's hypocritical AF. Biden's basically saying it's okay for HIM to keep foreign threats outside of the country, but not for then-President Trump. One realizes that without the lies, hypocrisy, etc that it would have been a very different political campaign.
     
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    Wrong. The Trump ADMIN didn't call it a Muslim ban, Trump did on the campaign trail. Why is what Trump called it relevant to what it actually IS?
     
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    I already post a link up above.... yes, words matter, if you say you're gonna do a Muslim ban, then ban Muslims, it's gonna be seen as a Muslim ban - regardless what you state your reasons are when you do it

    the whole, yeah we said we were gonna ban Muslims, but this is not a Muslim ban even though were banning Muslims, just doesn't ring true
     
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    Trump thought that he could get an ACTUAL Muslim ban! That's why he called it a Muslim ban! If Trump's travel ban targets Muslims, then Obama's visa waiver restrictions against the exact same countries also targeted Muslims!
     
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    yes, his first ban was blocked, that is why he came up with this angle to it

    Obama never claimed he was going to do a Muslim ban, words matter....
     
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    You have no idea what the difference was between the two do you?
     
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    sound like you sure don't.. do you?
     

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